Raheem Sterling

[BrooklynRed]

Months ago, I posted on here asking what Raheem Sterling's ceiling is: if you're buying potential, what is that potential? I posed the question: would Sterling ever be as good as Arjen Robben? is that his ceiling? And most who replied thought that Robben was too high a bar.

If he will never be one of the top wingers in Europe ala Robben, will Raheem ever be worth more than he is now? It seems really unlikely, especially since he is not nearly technically good enough, and does not seem to have a winning mentality. So, I think you take the money and walk away.

And speaking of trophies, I do not understand this whole mentality about wanting to win trophies.

Winners don't want to lift trophies, they want to be the one with the ball at their feet who earn them. Where is that mentality any more? If trophies are pre-ordained to a small handful of rich clubs, what is the point of hundreds of teams across UEFA? Put your boots on and help LFC win trophies and you'll be adored forever. I just don't see how players can't see that...

[rodo]

He will never go for more than whatever City pay for him

[baitman]

He will never go for more than whatever City pay for him

unless chelsea chuck in with a last minute gazump. that london, etc.

[rodo]

unless chelsea chuck in with a last minute gazump. that london, etc.

What I meant is whatever City or maybe Chelsea pay for him will be the max he will ever move for

[baitman]

What I meant is whatever City or maybe Chelsea pay for him will be the max he will ever move for

could raheem go on to be the new suarez-lite, could never see barca or real paying 50m+

[RedReet]

If Chelsea buy him, they'll probably loan him out and then sell him for £500m in a year or two.

[Shaggy]

Months ago, I posted on here asking what Raheem Sterling's ceiling is: if you're buying potential, what is that potential? I posed the question: would Sterling ever be as good as Arjen Robben? is that his ceiling? And most who replied thought that Robben was too high a bar.

If he will never be one of the top wingers in Europe ala Robben, will Raheem ever be worth more than he is now? It seems really unlikely, especially since he is not nearly technically good enough, and does not seem to have a winning mentality. So, I think you take the money and walk away.

And speaking of trophies, I do not understand this whole mentality about wanting to win trophies.

Winners don't want to lift trophies, they want to be the one with the ball at their feet who earn them. Where is that mentality any more? If trophies are pre-ordained to a small handful of rich clubs, what is the point of hundreds of teams across UEFA? Put your boots on and help LFC win trophies and you'll be adored forever. I just don't see how players can't see that...

Totally agree. So many players now want trophies and CL football handed to them on a plate. How can that be satisfying? You surely want to be a part of the team that achieves those things, not just waltz in and suddenly have it.

[Tatterdemalion]

Totally agree. So many players now want trophies and CL football handed to them on a plate. How can that be satisfying? You surely want to be a part of the team that achieves those things, not just waltz in and suddenly have it.

Have to agree as well. I've never understood how players equate having ambition with being in the best & winning team, which they haven't helped to get there.

If you have ambition, you want a sense of achievement surely? Where's the sense of achievement in helping the best team win another trophy that they would have won without you?


It's not ambition these players have, but idleness and a sense of entitlement.

[Buzzo]

And speaking of trophies, I do not understand this whole mentality about wanting to win trophies.

Winners don't want to lift trophies, they want to be the one with the ball at their feet who earn them. Where is that mentality any more? If trophies are pre-ordained to a small handful of rich clubs, what is the point of hundreds of teams across UEFA? Put your boots on and help LFC win trophies and you'll be adored forever. I just don't see how players can't see that...

Good post.

Bottom line, this is a massive issue football faces, and one that surely needs to be faced at some point. Football has become boring. The same small handful of clubs competing for the same trophies year after year. Clubs have no genuine identity, with players mercaneries who will sign up for whoever has the biggest billionaire backer.

The fundamental things that draw or drew supporters to clubs, the very identities which make them unique are fast disappearing with each club quickly becoming a soulless franchise, unique only because of then different colours they wear.

[Norbs]

Months ago, I posted on here asking what Raheem Sterling's ceiling is: if you're buying potential, what is that potential? I posed the question: would Sterling ever be as good as Arjen Robben? is that his ceiling? And most who replied thought that Robben was too high a bar.

If he will never be one of the top wingers in Europe ala Robben, will Raheem ever be worth more than he is now? It seems really unlikely, especially since he is not nearly technically good enough, and does not seem to have a winning mentality. So, I think you take the money and walk away.

And speaking of trophies, I do not understand this whole mentality about wanting to win trophies.

Winners don't want to lift trophies, they want to be the one with the ball at their feet who earn them. Where is that mentality any more? If trophies are pre-ordained to a small handful of rich clubs, what is the point of hundreds of teams across UEFA? Put your boots on and help LFC win trophies and you'll be adored forever. I just don't see how players can't see that...

I'll quote this as fact as I'm sure it represent fact.

Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher would not trade their 1 Champions League trophy with Liverpool for 10 league titles with Man United.

Any player at our club who values improving themselves without regard for improving Liverpool can do one

[Shaggy]

I'll quote this as fact as I'm sure it represent fact.

Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher would not trade their 1 Champions League trophy with Liverpool for 10 league titles with Man United.

Any player at our club who values improving themselves without regard for improving Liverpool can do one

100%. It is a fact. Gerrard literally turned down several opportunities to take a load of trophies on a plate. The fact he is mercilessly ridiculed and mocked about that (never won the Prem) is ****ing embarrassing and ridiculous. It's something that should be celebrated.

[DannyMan2006]

You read any footy players biography and they talk about trying to get with the best players in the five a side games or whatever. Think Gerrard used to say he'd try get in a team with Owen & Koumas etc.

Sterling isn't a local lad. He doesn't care about the club. A league here wouldn't mean more or less than one anywhere else. He's never had his name chanted by the Kop and just as we started to warm to him he's brushed us off.

At present we don't have top players and we won't win top prizes. If he has a chance to go and play with better players, compete at the highest level, on the biggest stage, on more money - hell, he'd be crazy to stay.

I could say he should look long term, but players are arrogant and think they can waltz into any team and be first choice. And looking at the City team - Navas & Milner were on their right side. One was inconsistent and ones left. He will start as first choice and up to him to stay in the side.

[Norbs]

You're spot on Shaggy

It is among our own and I couldn't care less about other fans. We'll never forget that and that's all that matters

[DannyMan2006]

100%. It is a fact. Gerrard literally turned down several opportunities to take a load of trophies on a plate. The fact he is mercilessly ridiculed and mocked about that (never won the Prem) is ****ing embarrassing and ridiculous. It's something that should be celebrated.

Players that stick in the mind - Steve Bull & Matt Le Tissier. Both good players but not the best there's ever been. But theyre every bit as memorable as the likes of Henry, Cantona, Bergkamp, Zola etc.

I guess there's an argument to say Le Tiss was up there at some stage, but Bull was pretty average all things considered. But his loyalty will not be forgotten for a long time, more memorable than some squad player who won a haul of trophies at one of the big clubs.

[DannyMan2006]

Another point.

I would love to be at a big club and be adored and revered by the fans. A legend when you leave. A place you could always go back to and be respected. What's the point in a few trophies? Surely the adulation of supporters means more?