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I think the Kop could be bouncing like never before. If he comes back it will be a quick cloak and dagger style move by The King.....bring it!!!
No matter how **** Torres was meant to have been for us, there is absolutely no doubt that Kenny had got him going just before he left. Big big mistake he left at that time....just to see him with Luis would be incredible. I can see it happening, I really can.
The stumbling block could be FSG....if Kenny and Commolli convince them, it WILL happen.
I think the stumbling block could be Chelsea. I don't think they will sell to a club who are chasing for CL qualification. Even if Torres says "I won't go to anywhere but Liverpool" Chelsea would bench him for the season.
They are horrible *******s.
"That's how I found myself on the Kop that day I had my blue-and-white scarf safely tucked away inside my coat as I listened to Liverpool songs and swayed with the masses.
Then City scored and I screeched and this big bloke, a Liverpool supporter, made towards me and I thought he was going to throttle me. But he just pulled my scarf from under my coat so it lay on the outside, and said: "You should always be proud of your colours, lad."
I think the Kop could be bouncing like never before. If he comes back it will be a quick cloak and dagger style move by The King.....bring it!!!
No matter how **** Torres was meant to have been for us, there is absolutely no doubt that Kenny had got him going just before he left. Big big mistake he left at that time....just to see him with Luis would be incredible. I can see it happening, I really can.
The stumbling block could be FSG....if Kenny and Commolli convince them, it WILL happen.
Torres upped his game in January to attract interest from other clubs. He was angling for a move away all along.
Fantastic idea by the Guardian to link all those vids to you tube clips but it looks like some from the FA's copyright team has went through the list this morning and files copyright infringement claims with youtube
Poor Guardian journo who compiled / found the clips must be utterly gutted
Fantastic idea by the Guardian to link all those vids to you tube clips but it looks like some from the FA's copyright team has went through the list this morning and files copyright infringement claims with youtube
Poor Guardian journo who compiled / found the clips must be utterly gutted
i know, i was saving this for my lunch time internet then they are all gone!!
i hope the PL are re launching the best goals from 93-94 on laserdisc.....
Fantastic idea by the Guardian to link all those vids to you tube clips but it looks like some from the FA's copyright team has went through the list this morning and files copyright infringement claims with youtube
Poor Guardian journo who compiled / found the clips must be utterly gutted
I watched them on my phone last night
The Patrik Berger one was from when he played for Portsmouth.
Recently there have been rumours surrounding Fernando Torres and a potential move back to Liverpool, almost a year after he went to Chelsea for £50 million. The consensus from most Liverpool fans is that there’s no chance we will take him back.
But hang on a second. Is there really a huge difference between Torres and Liverpool’s star man, Luis Suarez, this season? And would linking up with Suarez not potentially bring back the Torres we used to know and love?
So far this season Suarez has scored 5 goals to Torres’ 2. Suarez is better then, right? Not exactly. Suarez has scored 5 goals but in the tables below we can see that he has played 1215 minutes compared to Torres who has only played 541 minutes. He has also started more than twice the amount of games that Torres has.
So Torres has played just under half the amount of time Suarez has and has scored just under half the amount of goals. Seems pretty even. What sets them apart however are how many shots it has taken them to reach their respective goal tallies. Suarez has had 59 shots on goal so far this season, with 26 finding the target. Torres has taken 15 shots, with 7 on target.
Suarez shooting stats
Suarez is averaging slightly better than a goal for every 12 shots he takes. Torres however is scoring 1 goal for every 7.5 shots.
Torres shooting stats
Torres more than edges this. When he scores he takes 4.5 less shots than Suarez to do so. Torres’ shooting accuracy is also superior, hitting the target with 47% of his shots.
Suarez is hitting the target with 44% of his shots, but the crucial difference is in how well they take these chances. Suarez is converting 8% of his chances. A poor return considering teams like Blackburn Rovers, on average score 17% of theirs.
Suarez shooting accuracy and conversion rate
Torres however puts away 13% of his chances and yet is painted as being the more wasteful of the two.
Torres shooting accuracy and conversion rate
Suarez minutes per goal (243 minutes per goal, to Torres’ 271) may be superior, but based on the stats, if Torres had as many chances on goal as Suarez, his total goals for the season so far would be 8.
“But Suarez adds much more than goals,” I hear you cry. Well of course he does. But what if Suarez was supplying those crosses along the edge of the 6 yard box, and Torres was there to put them away?
Suarez assist stats
As shown by the table above, Suarez has created 31 chances this season, with only 1 being scored.
1.
Let that sink in…
That’s just over 3% of chances created by Suarez being converted in to goals. That is disgracefully low. And it is not his fault. There is merely no one there to finish them. Maybe if he had a proper goal-scoring front man to supply more of these chances to, then they would be converted.
This front man may not be Torres, but based on the stats, the possibility of him making a dramatic and successful return to Anfield cannot be discounted.
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