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    Originally posted by ric.williams View Post
    why cant a player develop by playing a different position? its not like you learn exclusive skills just for that position. most skills are kind of interchangeable
    Because then you are a jack of all trades and a master of none.

    Playing football is obviously the easiest thing in the world - put a ball down, kick it and away you go; that attribute isn't exclusive to any position - get the basics right and improve - however, the skills needed to play in the middle of the park are different to the qualities needed from a man on the right. Now, I'm not talking about kicking a ball - I mean when you're in the centre of the park, you're looking at the bigger picture; from the middle you are looking at the options going forward, what's going off beind you, you're passing players on and tracking players moving past and around you - you can't learn that from the right. On the right, you'll provide width - you're the furthest over, with a full back (mainly) behind you - to which you go up and down like a string, you'll rarely take control of a situation but look to stretch the game, you're looking to receive the ball, as apposed to give the ball.

    I don't know what you do for a living, but if you could relate it to work - how do you learn a new process? By watching from the right, or by being in the thick of it?

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      Originally posted by Muddled View Post
      Because then you are a jack of all trades and a master of none.

      Playing football is obviously the easiest thing in the world - put a ball down, kick it and away you go; that attribute isn't exclusive to any position - get the basics right and improve - however, the skills needed to play in the middle of the park are different to the qualities needed from a man on the right. Now, I'm not talking about kicking a ball - I mean when you're in the centre of the park, you're looking at the bigger picture; from the middle you are looking at the options going forward, what's going off beind you, you're passing players on and tracking players moving past and around you - you can't learn that from the right. On the right, you'll provide width - you're the furthest over, with a full back (mainly) behind you - to which you go up and down like a string, you'll rarely take control of a situation but look to stretch the game, you're looking to receive the ball, as apposed to give the ball.

      I don't know what you do for a living, but if you could relate it to work - how do you learn a new process? By watching from the right, or by being in the thick of it?
      i just sound like im arguing now so i'll leave it

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        Originally posted by ric.williams View Post
        i just sound like im arguing now so i'll leave it
        It's cool mate, fire away.

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          I wonder if we might have seen more of Henderson in the middle this season if Lucas had still be fit and playing.

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            I think his and Adam's playing time would have been much reduced.
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              Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
              I wonder if we might have seen more of Henderson in the middle this season if Lucas had still be fit and playing.
              possibly so but in saying that, even when lucas was playing in the first few months of the season, henderson was mostly playing on the right.

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                he was but things change and develop.

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                  Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                  I think his and Adam's playing time would have been much reduced.

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                    Good to see young players doing this with their spare time i think.

                    Henderson takes on Oxlade-Chamberlain in keepy-uppy ahead of Liverpool v Arsenal clash

                    Come on this is what being a footballer is all about, you’ve got to perform under pressure’

                    Arsenal midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain hit the nail on the head talking about the beautiful game ahead of his side’s huge clash at Liverpool this weekend.


                    But it wasn’t the Gunners testing trip to Anfield that the winger was referring to…but a game of keepy uppy with Reds star Jordan Henderson.

                    Normal size footballs are too easy for these two though, so the challenge was instead done with a tennis ball.

                    Oxlade-Chamberlain fanned the competitive flames further by questioning whether it will determine the result on Saturday.

                    If it indeed does, we could be in for a repeat of the classic 4-4 between the sides from 2009.

                    In the grand surroundings of a bar while both were on England Under 21 duty, the two struggled to post a respectable score early on.

                    But after getting into the groove, Henderson broke the 100 barrier – much to the dismay of Chamberlain.

                    After some near misses from the former Southampton starlet to beat the score, Henderson responded with a deadly counter attack. Posting a 148 complete with a stylish finish that suggested he could have done more.

                    The 18-year-old looked beaten, until a late flurry saw him post an agonisingly close score of 136. Henderson’s calm and composed feet won the battle but who will win the war on Saturday?

                    Watch a cool under pressure 'Hendo' OWN mr OX here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WU7vRV-gPyk




                    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz1o2u0ziEj
                    Last edited by Vermilion; 03-03-12, 11:08 AM.

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                      Henderson has started our last 19 games.

                      I quite like him and he will be a good player for us, but IMO it speaks volumes that he's become such a regular. At this stage of his career, it would be ideal for him and us if he was a sub/back-up more often than not.
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                        He's the closest thing we have to a future Gerrard (and that's still a long way away). If he just focuses on the final ball (throughball, cross or shot) then he could easily be a legend. Thankfully he has all the other attributes but none of the confidence.
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                          21 and will only get better. Will be great in a couple of years. Incredible that some have already written him off, both our own fans and those of other teams.
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                            Originally posted by ronanm View Post
                            21 and will only get better. Will be great in a couple of years. Incredible that some have already written him off, both our own fans and those of other teams.


                            He does look like a real prospect. Just needs to add some self belief but that will come as this team grows.
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                              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                              Henderson has started our last 19 games.

                              I quite like him and he will be a good player for us, but IMO it speaks volumes that he's become such a regular. At this stage of his career, it would be ideal for him and us if he was a sub/back-up more often than not.

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                                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                                Henderson has started our last 19 games.

                                I quite like him and he will be a good player for us, but IMO it speaks volumes that he's become such a regular. At this stage of his career, it would be ideal for him and us if he was a sub/back-up more often than not.
                                I know what you're saying - but I think in the long run this run of games and this season as a whole will benefit him much more than playing the odd 20 minutes or so now and again.
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