Jordan Henderson

[Kenneth]

Definitely his mentality letting him down.

As Lecter would say, 'he's ****ing chicken'.

[el matador]

Did you actually read my post above?

Nope.

[Rich]

What was Rodger's doing last season then with regards to Henderson's poor form given the fact he was managing Swansea . Was he sending him hate mail or something? Is Rodgers also to blame for Downing?

I'm not talking about last season, a season in which Henderson performed much better than what's he credited for.

We all know the lad's faults but they're mainly mental, it is up to the manager to unlock his potential.

Wrongly IMO, Rodgers sees no future for Henderson at LFC.

[dww]

Henderson needs the same level of support that Shelvey seems to be getting from the manager.

Big him up, give him belief and watch him blossom. He's struggling because he's barely played, or he's played in an unfamiliar position, or the fact his confidence is shot thanks to us trying to use him in the Dempsey deal (FFS).

Most of Henderson's poor form can be placed at Rodger's door IMO.

The lad clearly has a lot of skill, he's a hard worker, and has a good engine, plus he's young so really he's the kind of player we should be nuturing.

Instead, the writing it clearly on the wall for him and I'm not entirely sure why.

I think Rodgers has to take some responsibility for this and I do think he was to some extent a victim of being bought in by the last regime. However, it is Rodgers job to make these decisions. If he doesn't rate him then that is fair enough. He will stand or fall on the overall success of the team/club not how well he develops Henderson. If Rodgers can't/won't put the effort in (or Henderson doesn't respond when he does in training or whatever) then he has to go.

I like him for all the reasons you mention but on the flip side a lot of players have not made it simply because of their mentality. Downing is a clear example of that. Sometimes a decision has to be made on these things.

[Maxiedge]

What is this lads? The Samaritans? He's captain of the England U21s ffs, on about 70k a week (?), has had the chance to prove himself against ****e inferior teams and yet what? He's got confidence issues??!!

**** him. Seriously, **** him

and **** whoever paid £17m for him

Over and out.

[Rich]

What is this lads? The Samaritans? He's captain of the England U21s ffs, on about 70k a week (?), has had the chance to prove himself against ****e inferior teams and yet what? He's got confidence issues??!!

**** him. Seriously, **** him

and **** whoever paid £17m for him

Over and out.

Thanks for your valuable contribution to this thread.

[saj]

What is this lads? The Samaritans? He's captain of the England U21s ffs, on about 70k a week (?), has had the chance to prove himself against ****e inferior teams and yet what? He's got confidence issues??!!

**** him. Seriously, **** him

and **** whoever paid £17m for him

Over and out.

Thanks for your valuable contribution to this thread.

He hasn't said much wrong though has he though?

You say he is mentally not strong enough? I don't buy into that at all. He is just not good enough full stop. He had an opportunity to move on and he never took it - the fault lies with Henderson and not Rodgers. He has no ambition or desire. Even Andy Carroll took the opportunity to move on

[cream]

Anyone got a idea of what we actually paid for him?

[Lecter]

£13 million plus add-ons upto max £16 million according to the Echo

So £13 million then

[Mark79]

Harsh to blame the manager. Rodger's has given Henderson the Europa League and cup games to show what he can do, and so far he hasn't done enough to convince that he should be featuring more in the League as well.

[cream]

£13 million plus add-ons upto max £16 million according to the Echo

So £13 million then

That's not too bad then, might be able to recover a good portion of it.

[Norbs]

Harsh to blame the manager. Rodger's has given Henderson the Europa League and cup games to show what he can do, and so far he hasn't done enough to convince that he should be featuring more in the League as well.

Is correct. Henderson is a little overawed at playing for us at the moment, his head is fluffy. I don't think he can be trusted in the league yet, whether he gains the Manager's trust remains to be seen

[Gibbo]

Some geezar on Twitter last night was saying that Sunderland only apperently eanted 4mil, and we went in with a much higher offer to begin with.

[Lecter]

Some geezar on Twitter last night was saying that Sunderland only apperently eanted 4mil, and we went in with a much higher offer to begin with.

I think thats bull frankly

United had sniffed around the previous year and been quoted £20 million or something daft like that

[BobTheCharmer]

Harsh to blame the manager. Rodger's has given Henderson the Europa League and cup games to show what he can do, and so far he hasn't done enough to convince that he should be featuring more in the League as well.

I'm not his biggest fan but judging a player on his performances in the europa league and cup are a little harsh when those teams are often full of youngsters and reserves that have had little playing time together. (This bit now doesn't relate to Henderson) But I've always thought its easier for a youngster to come in to the first team and make an impact when he's surrounded by the best players at the club or coming into a successful team. Its much harder to make an impression when the team has been hashed together.

I just don't know what position that Henderson is best suited to. If its centre midfield he needs to stay back and put the hours in to hone the defensive tackling side of his game.