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    I'll try harder to watch every team in the world on a regular basis to come up with alternatives to big Marty. Didn't know I had to until now. Up to now though I've watched every game he's played for us and while he's not "the" problem he's absolutely one of them. And he's far from alone sadly.

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      Skrtel is fine if there is someone alongside who can tell him what to do - he had a great season a few year back when Agger or Carragher we telling him what to do. We don't have anyone to lead the back line, none of our defenders can do that.
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        G it's not that mate, listen I watch a lot of European football and I hear people on hear mentioning all these names like Ramos, Hummels, Varane, etc. I'm telling you these guys makes the same mistakes every ****ing week.

        I watch the same LFC games your watching. Some people are just waiting for one mistake to jump the gun and everything else is forgotten. Today for example, did any of the people ripping the **** out of him actually see how many times he got us out of **** today? I bet it went totally unnoticed. Is he the organiser extroardinar? No but he's a good CB that needs aa reliable partner beside him.

        Was he at fault for the Martial goal? Yes. Was he covering for an out of position Clyne? Yup. I'm don't deny for a second that he backs off too much but when ur playing against someone of the pace of Martial (he is about as fast as they come) there is always a tendency for a CB to d few drop deeper. He got done it happens but let's not completely ignore that he didn't make a single mistake the whole game and marked Fellaini and Herrara out of the game.

        The Skrtel / Sakho is the best we've got IMO and that has been proven last season. Do I think Sakho is as good as you rate him? No, but he is streets ahead of Lovren.

        For me, we do not have a manager that knows his players or how to play them. What system? What formation? What tactics? As many have said, the midfield is our major malfunction. Sort that and defence and attack will improve.
        Last edited by danperkins; 12-09-15, 11:52 PM.

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          Originally posted by G View Post
          I'll try harder to watch every team in the world on a regular basis to come up with alternatives to big Marty. Didn't know I had to until now. Up to now though I've watched every game he's played for us and while he's not "the" problem he's absolutely one of them. And he's far from alone sadly.
          Haha! Kind of pointless naming alternatives anyway as his 2 worshippers will just say x isn't better so what's the ****ing point?!

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            Originally posted by G View Post
            I'll try harder to watch every team in the world on a regular basis to come up with alternatives to big Marty. Didn't know I had to until now. Up to now though I've watched every game he's played for us and while he's not "the" problem he's absolutely one of them. And he's far from alone sadly.


            You really don't have to......a casual glance at a lot of goals being scored on MOTD every weekend, and imagining what you're reaction would be if it was Skrtel as the CB involved, would probably show that the standard of CBs at the English top-level is probably more level that we think. We can point to defensive errors in almost all cases...****, Gary Neville and Carra are making a career as after-the-fact analysts.

            I'd love to have better than Skrtel available to us, I'd love to have better than Lovren, and Sakho, and Lucas, and Milner, and Coutinho, and Mig etc etc.............but we have a major issues inherent in this side, and I don't believe it'll magically go away by swapping out our most experienced CB without addressing the core issues.
            "I will make the boys feel your support"
            Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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              What do people expect Franco Baresi? We have a very functional CB in Skrtel that was one of the best CBs in the league last year... What exactly do people want?

              Apart from Terry /Cahil,Mostly Terry to be fair.. Not one person could name a better CB in the league last year. Is that not an important thing for people? He is not the problem, but until we get our midfield sorted out we will concede goals.

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                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                Yup, full of **** people slagging him off, I love it not one ****ing answer between the lot. After Terry and Cahill he was the best CB in the league last season and that's without Matic doing all the donkey work in front of them . Chap works his bollox off, wears his heart on his sleeve and has been covering a whole array a different defenders placed beside him over the years. A consistent back line doesn't exist at LFC. Square peg, round hole. Rodgers simply cannot sort out a defence.

                Ashley Williams for all the slagging off we've gave him is a decent CB. People are waiting for the next Baresi but the CB position is a very unforgiving position. Like last season, sort the midfield mess out and things will look much better.

                Skrtel is a scapegoat... He could put in ten world class performances and then make one mistake and this thread would be bouncing. He only makes blocks, clearances and last ditch tackles... That's what he's supposed to do!

                Name alternatives?
                Skrtel is ****.

                Deal with it you horrific wum cunt.

                Even on your holiday with a Harry Potter wand up your arse you still can't resist being a terrible ***** alright.

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                    Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                    Skrtel is ****.

                    Deal with it you horrific wum cunt.

                    Even on your holiday with a Harry Potter wand up your arse you still can't resist being a terrible ***** alright.
                    Spot on.

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                      Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                      Skrtel is ****.

                      Deal with it you horrific wum cunt.

                      Even on your holiday with a Harry Potter wand up your arse you still can't resist being a terrible ***** alright.
                      how will I cope with these insults .... Skrtel is **** a I can't name anyone else loud noises blah blah blah you prize prick

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                        Calm down, calm down

                        "I will make the boys feel your support"
                        Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                          Fwiw those Harry Potter wands cost a fortune

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                            Martin Skrtel: The one constant in Liverpool’s constantly fragile defence


                            He has played in 176 of the Reds’ 194 Premier League matches between the start of the 2010/11 season and the West Ham defeat, and Liverpool have conceded 44, 40, 43, 50 and 48 goals in each campaign- three in four matches so far this season- respectively.

                            In the three full seasons Rodgers has been in charge, Skrtel has made 14 key defensive errors in the league alone. Compare that to three similarly ever-present defenders in John Terry, Gary Cahill and Vincent Kompany, who have made just 15 between them in that time.
                            He’s here! I *know* he’s here! That’s him, I’m telling you that’s him! You hear me? I’m telling you it’s *Keyser Soze*!

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                              They all also have much more competant midfields in front of them. So presumably have less defending to do.
                              Football without Origi is nothing

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                                Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                                Skrtel is ****.



                                Deal with it you horrific wum cunt.



                                Even on your holiday with a Harry Potter wand up your arse you still can't resist being a terrible ***** alright.

                                Hello mert.

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