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    I don't personally want FSG out, (billionaire owner aside) but I equally can see why there is a huge amount of discontent right now. That season was an absolute shocker.

    Going on 'one good run' in a season where we won bugger all is nothing to be impressed about at all. It's the mediocre bollocks that teams who dream but achieve nothing go on about, like if West Ham start the season well.

    I'm ****ing sick of everything to do with football right now.
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      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      Are we still claiming last season was all down to a Player, but this season is down to a manager?

      I think there needs to be some shared responsibility here.

      Rodgers has as much impact on results as the 11 on the pitch do. But now it all seems to be the fault of the manager for being a novice or whatever.

      FSG dont know much about football. Ok. But what about last season? Did they know all about it then, but nothing now?

      I am not Rodgers biggest fan right now, but the rewriting of history and the 'I told you so' nature of some peoples opinions almost makes me want him to stay to prove some people wrong.
      OK, well I don't agree with the notion that FSG need to go, they might still sack him and make some changes, maybe they are seeking counsel which is all well and good. But I reserve the right to say I told you so given that I received abuse for saying I thought Rodgers wasn't good enough earlier.
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        This is the atmosphere that will only get worse, and it's not just happening here. This is why big, tangible changes have to be made. When stories come out saying there won't be, you can understand why people are angry.

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          Originally posted by RichC View Post
          I dunno supporters talking about thinking about not supporting the club anymore that sort of thing or supporting the manager you know the sort of thing that makes you a supporter ?
          That's just heat of the moment stuff, FSG haven't done anything yet, neither sacked nor backed him publically, let's give them a few days. I want him out mind you.
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            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
            OK, well I don't agree with the notion that FSG need to go, they might still sack him and make some changes, maybe they are seeking counsel which is all well and good. But I reserve the right to say I told you so given that I received abuse for saying I thought Rodgers wasn't good enough earlier.
            Why though? Who and what does it help in a discussion? All it does is piss people off on either side and makes it seem like you want to gloat in our failings?

            Do you get what I mean here? Im all for getting behind or arguing against someone. But flag waving after the event makes people seem like bad winners/losers.
            *Except Michael, who died.

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              Originally posted by Alex View Post
              Are we still claiming last season was all down to a Player, but this season is down to a manager?

              I think there needs to be some shared responsibility here.

              Rodgers has as much impact on results as the 11 on the pitch do. But now it all seems to be the fault of the manager for being a novice or whatever.

              FSG dont know much about football. Ok. But what about last season? Did they know all about it then, but nothing now?

              I am not Rodgers biggest fan right now, but the rewriting of history and the 'I told you so' nature of some peoples opinions almost makes me want him to stay to prove some people wrong.
              Almost

              Rodgers definitely had a good year last year, he nearly cracked it. He did have many things in his favour (no Europe, Utd transition, low expectations etc) - but he managed them well. The only alarming thing was the goals we were letting in, but it was easy to ignore that when we scored 4,5,6 every week.

              I'd be happy for Rodgers to stay if he had shown even the merest hint of knowing how to return to that over the last few months, but he really has not. If we can get an experienced manager in with a few decent trophies on his CV, then I'd be all over it.
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                Would we stick with Rodgers purely because no one decent is available? doesn't fill me with confidence. Can't help but feel we need someone with more experience and international stature.

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                  Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
                  This is the atmosphere that will only get worse, and it's not just happening here. This is why big, tangible changes have to be made. When stories come out saying there won't be, you can understand why people are angry.


                  Yep, I suspect there is a degree of patience required here. I doubt any decisions have been made, the time for disillusion may yet be around the corner

                  I really don't see BR surviving this, but you never know.
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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                    I don't personally want FSG out, (billionaire owner aside) but I equally can see why there is a huge amount of discontent right now. That season was an absolute shocker.

                    Going on 'one good run' in a season where we won bugger all is nothing to be impressed about at all. It's the mediocre bollocks that teams who dream but achieve nothing go on about, like if West Ham start the season well.

                    I'm ****ing sick of everything to do with football right now.
                    Oh I get the discontent, finishing 2nd to then finish 6th with a battering in the final game of the season is not good enough however some of the histrionics on here has been ridiculously over the top.

                    I think the next few weeks will be telling with regards FSG, the model they're trying to implement is based on success on the pitch that's how the money will flow from sponsorship deals etc.. If they don't think Rodgers is that man they'll pull the trigger and much the same with anyone involved at the club such as Ayre.

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                      Originally posted by Alex View Post
                      Why though? Who and what does it help in a discussion? All it does is piss people off on either side and makes it seem like you want to gloat in our failings?

                      Do you get what I mean here? Im all for getting behind or arguing against someone. But flag waving after the event makes people seem like bad winners/losers.
                      I haven't said it mind, kept very quiet the past few months on purpose. It's just that I felt I got abuse when voicing my opinions before and a few others did too IIRC. I think we're all being relatively civil about things, at least not handing out abuse like we received, although we are mostly on the same page now. I admit I didn't think he'd lose the plot again though after he turned it around. My point is, when people voice concerns or different opinions, maybe next time mods could step in a bit more next time.
                      * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                        Originally posted by Alex View Post
                        Are we still claiming last season was all down to a Player, but this season is down to a manager?

                        I think there needs to be some shared responsibility here.

                        Rodgers has as much impact on results as the 11 on the pitch do. But now it all seems to be the fault of the manager for being a novice or whatever.

                        FSG dont know much about football. Ok. But what about last season? Did they know all about it then, but nothing now?

                        I am not Rodgers biggest fan right now, but the rewriting of history and the 'I told you so' nature of some peoples opinions almost makes me want him to stay to prove some people wrong.

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                          Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                          That's just heat of the moment stuff, FSG haven't done anything yet, neither sacked nor backed him publically, let's give them a few days. I want him out mind you.
                          Exactly, let's see what they do. They've several options open to them at the moment and nobody on the footballing side of LFC is in a particularly strong position at the moment.

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                            Originally posted by RichC View Post
                            Oh I get the discontent, finishing 2nd to then finish 6th with a battering in the final game of the season is not good enough however some of the histrionics on here has been ridiculously over the top.

                            I think the next few weeks will be telling with regards FSG, the model they're trying to implement is based on success on the pitch that's how the money will flow from sponsorship deals etc.. If they don't think Rodgers is that man they'll pull the trigger and much the same with anyone involved at the club such as Ayre.
                            I think too much is made of that f***ing model. They should just try and get a good manager in, some good players and stop complicating football so much. If we get some sort of success they can build on that by applying a model or philosophy when we have something to build on.
                            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                              I know people are calling for the chop here and possibly rightly so however it's not all down to Rodgers. The players are culpable here for a pretty much no show for the entire season.

                              They've let him, us and themselves down with their lack of heart and fight and for lads that are on around 150k a week that is simply not good enough. Yes you can question Rodgers decisions and formations of course, ultimately the players are the ones on the pitch and they are the ones that need to perform. Even if you don't know what formation you play that is no substitute for putting in a lack of heart and passion.

                              Moving forward into next season if Rodgers is still here which I imagine he will be, I am certain we won't see many displays as bad as that as it simply won't be tolerated.
                              Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                              Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                                Originally posted by RichC View Post
                                Exactly, let's see what they do. They've several options open to them at the moment and nobody on the footballing side of LFC is in a particularly strong position at the moment.
                                Guess all we can do is wait. We've waited quarter of a century for the title, we can wait a few days I guess.
                                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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