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    Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
    i'm sure ian ayre is on the phone right now, all "well, we have to fire rodgers because el matador said we can't judge each situation on its own merits. no. no, we fired kenny so we have to fire rodgers even though we're a lot more comfortable with his long term vision (and the fact that he has one that's been meticulously thought out quite recently). **** it, let's get it done."
    Scary that we think our owners and MD are clueless. Maybe need to look closer to home for the clueless ones in all of this

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      Originally posted by el matador View Post
      look i said i wouldnt say anything else about replacing rodgers until the end of the season and i wont.

      but it was ian ayre who said that kenny was let go because results werent good enough.

      I understand its not a quick fix but if we accept mediocrity for too long it will become the norm and we have been cack this year.
      Results have been cack but our play generally have been far from cack. I'm sure we all have concerns but on the whole we can see what Rodgers is trying to do.

      You call him an idealist but I'd rather we had more idealists in this world trying to implement their crazy idealists ideas, at least it makes life less boring. And idealists are generally creative types, so I'm even more willing to give Rodgers time.

      I like the way we're trying to play and Rodgers is entirely right in that the players need to believe in this way of playing. We didn't have enough belief in the first half yesterday and it showed we are not consistent yet by how well we penned them back in the last 30 minutes after we went 2 goals down.

      I'm all up for discussing football issues but panicking at this stage or demanding results at this stage is ludicrous. It hurts for everyone when we lose against United, it's not just you.
      Are we winning?

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        I don't think we'll finish outside the top 10 Tee. We'll finish about 8th (ie. give or take a position either way), and for me that will be about right given the state of the squad etc this year. We will need to see a genuine improvement next season, but I don't think that will be a disaster.

        Originally posted by el matador View Post
        kenny was sacked because results were crap.
        Kenny was sacked for presiding over the worst transfer business this club has ever done. If he'd done a KLF and just burnt £50m on a beach somewhere that would have been more stylish and had just as much positive effect on the squad. Add to that the results being poor, the club PR being a disaster and him obviously having no real plan how to turn things around... I love the guy but sacking Kenny when we did was 100% the right thing to do in my opinion. Not giving Rodgers a second season would be 100% the wrong thing to do.
        I could not dig, I dared not rob:
        Therefore I lied to please the mob.
        Now all my lies are proved untrue
        And I must face the men I slew.
        What tale shall serve me here among
        Mine angry and defrauded young?

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            Originally posted by Tee View Post


            But it will be squeaky bum time for BR if we finish outside the top 10 IMO. He needs next season at the very least and if there is no real progress it is fair enough for the owners to review his position.
            No it won't.
            Are we winning?

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              Are there actually many fans calling for him to be sacked though? It seems to me most are accepting of what he is trying to do and are willing to give him time.
              *Except Michael, who died.

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                Originally posted by Captain Stu View Post
                Need to add 'until Rafa comes back' to make it spot on.

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                  Originally posted by Alex View Post
                  Are there actually many fans calling for him to be sacked though? It seems to me most are accepting of what he is trying to do and are willing to give him time.
                  I have been critical of Rodgers but I dont want him sacked. We (the owners) should evalute his perfomance in the spring and what he is going to in order to bring us forward.
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                    I have been critical of Rodgers but I dont want him sacked. We (the owners) should evalute his perfomance in the spring and what he is going to in order to bring us forward.


                    We can criticise our Manager but still not want him to be sacked. Some people need to see that and not get so wound up in their own quest for superfan status.
                    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                      I have seen signs this season we are moving in the right direction. We have outplayed some teams and got nothing, some for a lot of the game (Spurs away, Swansea awy), some in spells (yesterday - where I was genuinely surprised how dangerous we looked, admittedly in the last 30 mins). I think we'll push on in the 2nd half and finish 6th. Could do with tightening up at the back though - Leiva getting back to full fitness will help.
                      Substance > Style

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                        Originally posted by Tee View Post


                        We can criticise our Manager but still not want him to be sacked. Some people need to see that and not get so wound up in their own quest for superfan status.
                        Who is being a superfan here? It's just tiresome reading all the short sightedness after a defeat. We need stability and we'll review Rodgers after at least 2 years.
                        Are we winning?

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                            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                            Who is being a superfan here? It's just tiresome reading all the short sightedness after a defeat. We need stability and we'll review Rodgers after at least 2 years.
                            And its just as tiresome reading endless justifications of clear mistakes. And also reading how Joe Allen is the equivalent of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets. Jeez Nigey, I still cannot get over that one.
                            "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                              Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                              Who is being a superfan here? It's just tiresome reading all the shortsightedness after a defeat. We need stability and we'll review Rodgers after at least 2 years.
                              See, I think its fair to review his current progress in the summer. Everyone has job reviews to see if they are on course. I think he has done fine up to now, so I dont think FSG will have any worries. But it is defiantly prudent to review things all the time regardless of time the manager has been here. He should have to justify things.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                Originally posted by Tee View Post
                                And its just as tiresome reading endless justifications of clear mistakes. And also reading how Joe Allen is the equivalent of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets. Jeez Nigey, I still cannot get over that one.
                                Oh dear, talk about revisionism here. Where have I consistently said he's better than Iniesta, Busquets etc .... **** off.

                                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                                See, I think its fair to review his current progress in the summer. Everyone has job reviews to see if they are on course. I think he has done fine up to now, so I dont think FSG will have any worries. But it is defiantly prudent to review things all the time regardless of time the manager has been here. He should have to justify things.
                                Of course, but after every game? Fine discussing our issues in how we've played or what could have been done better but anything else is ludicrous.
                                Are we winning?

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