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    Originally posted by Nigey View Post
    They make teams pay while we don't. We've dominated a majority of our games this season, home or away. We just don't have the efficiency. That is the difference.



    That's the kind of crap which pisses me off.
    I don't mean to offend but in all fairness, your comments are a bit deluded (for the want of a better word).

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      Originally posted by danperkins View Post
      But that is neither here nor there, you said we are close to United & closer than i think. The evidence over the past 2 decades or so and once again this season... would suggest otherwise. No their fault they've had stability and success.

      Come on Nige seriously be realistic, we are nowhere near their calibre. I genuinely don't think 99.9% of football fans would even contemplate that comment.
      That's because you analyse the game the way 99.9% of people or most media pundits would see it. Call it peer pressure or whatever but it does influence most people. Does not make it particularly right.

      United are more efficient and have a bigger squad than us. Then they have Van Persie who has been the best player in the league for 2 or 3 years. He wins them more games than say Suarez does for us.
      Are we winning?

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        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
        I don't mean to offend but in all fairness, your comments are a bit deluded (for the want of a better word).
        Deluded? WTF.

        They are not miles ahead Dan. They are not miles ahead. They are better than us.
        Are we winning?

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          Originally posted by danperkins View Post
          The league does not lie
          Neither does it tell the whole truth.

          That's not to say I agree with Nigel.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



          May the Lord bless this post.

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            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
            That's because you analyse the game the way 99.9% of people or most media pundits would see it. Call it peer pressure or whatever but it does influence most people. Does not make it particularly right.

            United are more efficient and have a bigger squad than us. Then they have Van Persie who has been the best player in the league for 2 or 3 years. He wins them more games than say Suarez does for us.
            Nigel United have dominated english football for the past 2 decades, peer pressure,influence etc have absolutely nothing got to do with team being a power house in English football. And i don't have to analyse anything to see the facts, they have won the league 12 times in last 2 decades, 5 fa cups, 4 league cups & champs league few times. You don't need professional analytical skills to decipher that's is pretty damn impressive, regardless of who they are.

            They simply are a much better team than us & were before RVP joined them & before Rooney joined them & before Ronaldo joined them.

            I just can't fathom how even the most staunch Liverpool F.C. can argue this. Just my opinion as you have yours, but i'd be shocked if even LFC fans would suggest that we are close to United at the moment.

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              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
              Chelsea are weaker, Utd are weaker, we're weaker, Arsenal are weaker. City are the obvious exception but even then, given their huge spending they're really not a very good side. Look at their abysmal performances in Europe.

              In fact look at the performances of all Prem sides in the CL. It's piss poor.

              Spurs and Everton are improved but they're nowhere near, for example, to what we were in 2009.

              Look at all the quality that's left the league - Ronaldo, Alonso, Mascherano, Fabregas etc. All top quality players who've gone to the best two teams in the world. The defending is as bad as I can remember it too. It's still an exciting league, sure, but the standard has dropped big time - hence one of the weakest United sides in years (ask any of their fans and they will all agree they're not up to much, especially by their standards) breaking all sorts of records.


              Couldn't have said it better myself.
              "I will make the boys feel your support"
              Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                Neither does it tell the whole truth.

                That's not to say I agree with Nigel.
                The best team wins the league ever year.

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                  Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                  The best team wins the league ever year.
                  This year it will be the least-**** team that wins, the entire league is getting weaker and weaker and this is best demonstrated by the fact that United will piss the league despite it being THE worst squad Slurgie has had in his entire time there but the simple fact that they have Van Persie. He's single-handedly dragging them to the title.
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                    Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                    Deluded? WTF.

                    They are not miles ahead Dan. They are not miles ahead. They are better than us.
                    So what do you call 24 points then a head start?

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                      Originally posted by Captain Stu View Post
                      This year it will be the least-**** team that wins, the entire league is getting weaker and weaker and this is best demonstrated by the fact that United will piss the league despite it being THE worst squad Slurgie has had in his entire time there but the simple fact that they have Van Persie. He's single-handedly dragging them to the title.
                      The league is definitely weaker no doubts but sure you can only play who is infront of you. Who ever wins the league this year will deserve it.... just as they do every year.

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                        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                        The best team wins the league ever year.
                        I don't know what you think that truism proves.
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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                          Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                          Nigel United have dominated english football for the past 2 decades...
                          Boo. I hate Nigel United.
                          .
                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                            Nigel United have dominated english football for the past 2 decades, peer pressure,influence etc have absolutely nothing got to do with team being a power house in English football. And i don't have to analyse anything to see the facts, they have won the league 12 times in last 2 decades, 5 fa cups, 4 league cups & champs league few times. You don't need professional analytical skills to decipher that's is pretty damn impressive, regardless of who they are.

                            They simply are a much better team than us & were before RVP joined them & before Rooney joined them & before Ronaldo joined them.

                            I just can't fathom how even the most staunch Liverpool F.C. can argue this. Just my opinion as you have yours, but i'd be shocked if even LFC fans would suggest that we are close to United at the moment.
                            I am not talking about 23 years of United success. I am talking about this year and how far behind in terms of quality we are. We are not that far.
                            Are we winning?

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                              Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                              So what do you call 24 points then a head start?
                              Nope, a bottoms up start.
                              Are we winning?

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                                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                                I was amazed to hear that utd have their biggest points tally at this stage of the season ever, and with a team many say isn't anywhere near their best ever.
                                It proves how **** the Prem has become...
                                Thanks for the memories Rafa - YNWA!

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