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    Seeing that pressing one again that's ****ing terrible they're caught in no mans land so press and you're by passed and drop off and they're still knock it past you from the starting positions.

    Really poor discipline all round there

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      Seeing that pressing one again that's ****ing terrible they're caught in no mans land so press and you're by passed and drop off and they're still knock it past you from the starting positions.

      Really poor discipline all round there

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        The worry for me isnt that one man chases it, its the lack of intelligence from others around

        I cant understand how other midfielders dont fill in when Gerrard goes off on one like that

        They should have the awareness to see the number of teammates around them and the potential danger of being killed with 1 pass
        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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          You can see that Rodgers is working on our defensive shape. His current marking hybrid from set-pieces looks like he's identified fault and is trying to play to our players' strengths, but it seems the players are struggling to adapt. He's having a horrible run of fitness and form with the defensive players at his disposal though, hence why we've hardly played with a settled back five all season.

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            Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
            Seeing that pressing one again that's ****ing terrible they're caught in no mans land so press and you're by passed and drop off and they're still knock it past you from the starting positions.

            Really poor discipline all round there
            Its schoolboy stuff

            Last year Gerrard held position more than he has this

            Hes definitely drifting out of position more
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              Originally posted by RoboKop View Post
              All very well saying the players ain't following instructions but it's his job to make sure they do. Especially as he bought most of them players.
              Of course he still takes some of the blame for it, defensively Rodgers has yet to prove he can get it right.

              Do remember though that once players get on that pitch quite often when under pressure they're likely to revert to what's natural for them but he needs to find a way of making sure that doesn't happen.

              Worry is at the moment you'd say ok defensively we're **** so lets get on the front foot but we're equally if not worse at that at the moment as well

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                Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                Seeing that pressing one again that's ****ing terrible they're caught in no mans land so press and you're by passed and drop off and they're still knock it past you from the starting positions.

                Really poor discipline all round there
                Indeed. I wonder if that's due to too many changes in the summer? Last season we were one cohesive unit with only a handful of changes; This season, we've no idea what starting eleven Rodgers is going to go for.

                I also think we're a slight team. Looking at the majority of Chelsea's team on Saturday, the defenders are tall, the midfield strong and the playmakers quick and nimble around one big unit. Sure, we have size, but we do tend to appear quite meak.

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                  Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                  Of course he still takes some of the blame for it, defensively Rodgers has yet to prove he can get it right.

                  Do remember though that once players get on that pitch quite often when under pressure they're likely to revert to what's natural for them but he needs to find a way of making sure that doesn't happen.

                  Worry is at the moment you'd say ok defensively we're **** so lets get on the front foot but we're equally if not worse at that at the moment as well
                  I dont think weve tried to get on the front foot at all, other than Spurs

                  The whole thing is a mess and its hard now to think positively when you see the teamsheets because you know its gonna be the same old ****
                  Last edited by Lecter; 10-11-14, 04:23 PM.
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                    Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                    Indeed. I wonder if that's due to too many changes in the summer? Last season we were one cohesive unit with only a handful of changes; This season, we've no idea what starting eleven Rodgers is going to go for.

                    I also think we're a slight team. Looking at the majority of Chelsea's team on Saturday, the defenders are tall, the midfield strong and the playmakers quick and nimble around one big unit. Sure, we have size, but we do tend to appear quite meak.
                    More to do with system changes than quantity of new players

                    There is no pressing from the midfielders such as Henderson or Sterling or even Coutinho in comparison to what was achieved last season

                    3 players who were all here last season and have contributed little or nothing this year in terms of pressure on the ball
                    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                      Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                      Indeed. I wonder if that's due to too many changes in the summer? Last season we were one cohesive unit with only a handful of changes; This season, we've no idea what starting eleven Rodgers is going to go for.

                      I also think we're a slight team. Looking at the majority of Chelsea's team on Saturday, the defenders are tall, the midfield strong and the playmakers quick and nimble around one big unit. Sure, we have size, but we do tend to appear quite meak.
                      Aye I thought that when's looking at the Chelsea side vs ours there was far more of a cohesive unit through all phases of their side.

                      I'll be honest I can't see a quick and easy fix to the side at the moment there seems to be too many players off form and struggling with a serious lack of confidence. Hopefully the reintroduction of a fit Sturridge will help to an extent but that's not going to suddenly fix all the issues.

                      Having the players to move back to two up top again will hopefully help with the shape

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                        Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                        Aye I thought that when's looking at the Chelsea side vs ours there was far more of a cohesive unit through all phases of their side.

                        I'll be honest I can't see a quick and easy fix to the side at the moment there seems to be too many players off form and struggling with a serious lack of confidence. Hopefully the reintroduction of a fit Sturridge will help to an extent but that's not going to suddenly fix all the issues.

                        Having the players to move back to two up top again will hopefully help with the shape
                        For me each game just raises more questions and its more questions that Brendan seemingly doesnt know the answer to
                        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                          They can be taken out of context to a certain degree you are right

                          BUT in terms of the first one, no way should you have that many players pressing a ball in such a short space

                          Its suicidal as 1 ball kills 5 or 6 players stone dead

                          The corner photo shows how bad we are in terms of phases of play, that is so poor imo its beyond belief in fact



                          I think this gif shows a clearer picture of how bad we are.

                          Almost all the players are sucked in towards the ball. Not sure what is happening there as we do zonal marking. When everyone is sucked in towards the ball and we loose the header, we are in **** street.

                          Either that or majority of the players decided to play the offside trap with Gerrard on the line

                          Amateurish stuff.

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                            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                            For me each game just raises more questions and its more questions that Brendan seemingly doesnt know the answer to
                            Youre not sure about BR?

                            Who'd have guessed that

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                              The problem (well one of them) Rodgers faces. with our transfer windows is he needs to perform miracles, we are shopping at a different level but looking for top end results. We need Can to play like Fabregas and Balotelli to play like Costa. We are operating in a different financial level to the clubs that are winning the big trophies. Without spending massive cash I don't see how this can change. Last season was a massive opportunity missed as we took massive momentum from not playing cup football added to a miracle season from Sturridge and Suarez.

                              In reality it should be no surprise we are mis-firing right now. The thing that is worrying is that there are no signs that things will change any time soon.

                              We need Sturridge to get shot of his injury problems and we need to strengthen in a few areas with quality. But do elite level players want to sign for us? And do we have the money to compete for them? I suspect the answer to these questions may not be one we want to hear. That said, City have shown if you have the money and are prepared to pay the wages - you can get the players. I see no sign of FFP affecting them or the other elite clubs.
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                                Flawed transfer strategy for where the club was in the summer, IMO. Should have signed 2 players at the top end of the market (on higher wages) to ensure our strongest team was still very strong despite losing Suarez.

                                Still would have had a squad that could compete on the main two fronts, PL and CL.

                                For the League Cup and FA Cup we should have committed to playing our youngsters/reserves, thus keeping the incentive for them (which seems to be lost somewhat now that we have a bigger, deeper squad).
                                "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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