Brendan Rodgers

[el matador]

Given your own managerial experience it smacks of hypocrisy to me that your criticising Rodgers for choosing to go with a young untested striker.

Pot calling the kettle there like.

First teams arent for developing players. Theyre for winning.

Thats what academies are for and why they shouldnt be focused on winning.

[Mattshark]

Andy carrolls better than not having a striker on the bench no matter what you think.

Youre disputing ba's widely acknowledged escape clause forjust 7m

Not the best way to get more out of underperforming players is it.

So rodgers was wrong to want dempsey in the first place

No, he offers next to nothing.

You are assuming that, you do not know for sure. If you are going to accept that, you should be accepting his ****ed up knee too.

Getting rid of them was the correct way forward. And it depends on the individual. Some people respond better to criticism than coddling. Depends on the individual.

I didn't say that. What I was saying was that we wanted him at a price we thought was right.

[Rowan]

First teams arent for developing players. Theyre for winning.

Thats what academies are for and why they shouldnt be focused on winning.

Actually I was referring to the fact you think it is unwise for Rodgers to put his faith in Borini given his age when at the same time you refuse to play anyone up front who is over the age of 11

Naturally it didn't work out how i'd planned it.

[Alex]

Rodgers was wrong to want Dempsey. Look at him at Spurs. Hardly setting the place alight and scoring goals. Bullet dodged IMO.

[Tee]

And the same for Gylfii.

[Rowan]

Rodgers was wrong to want Dempsey. Look at him at Spurs. Hardly setting the place alight and scoring goals. Bullet dodged IMO.

And sigurdson? Is he even getting a game there?

[el matador]

No, he offers next to nothing.

You are assuming that, you do not know for sure. If you are going to accept that, you should be accepting his ****ed up knee too.

Getting rid of them was the correct way forward. And it depends on the individual. Some people respond better to criticism than coddling. Depends on the individual.

I didn't say that. What I was saying was that we wanted him at a price we thought was right.

Right so if offers **** all how come west ham who built their attack around him are sitting 3 places above us.

Getting rid of them might be the right thing to do but by making it crystal clear to the whole world theyre not wanted weve already knocked off half what theyre worth. Horses for courses et al but downing hardly seems the type to get a kick up the arse from a public bollocking.

Bas knee might be dodgy but hes stil playing regularly enough.

Ok so fsg didnt want to spend 8m cash on dempsey but sanctioned a swap deal for 13m henderson. So is dempsey not worth 8m but its ok to swap him for a 13m midfield player.

[Alex]

And sigurdson? Is he even getting a game there?

Now and then. I think Sigurdson would have been useful. But you never know with players like that. I always had Dempsey down as a player with average ability in a poor team. Which is showing up now.

[Chazza]

Rodgers was wrong to want Dempsey. Look at him at Spurs. Hardly setting the place alight and scoring goals. Bullet dodged IMO.

That's him nailed on to score on Weds now.

[Alex]

Yep

[el matador]

Actually I was referring to the fact you think it is unwise for Rodgers to put his faith in Borini given his age when at the same time you refuse to play anyone up front who is over the age of 11

Naturally it didn't work out how i'd planned it.

No I guess it didnt.

[little dave hedgehog]

Right so if offers **** all how come west ham who built their attack around him are sitting 3 places above us.

Getting rid of them might be the right thing to do but by making it crystal clear to the whole world theyre not wanted weve already knocked off half what theyre worth. Horses for courses et al but downing hardly seems the type to get a kick up the arse from a public bollocking.

Bas knee might be dodgy but hes stil playing regularly enough.

Ok so fsg didnt want to spend 8m cash on dempsey but sanctioned a swap deal for 13m henderson. So is dempsey not worth 8m but its ok to swap him for a 13m midfield player.

considering carroll just made his first contribution in a match where they dropped points, i'd say west ham are above us despite having him rather than because.

[el matador]

I never said dempsey was a must for us.

I said rodgers tried to get fsg over a barrel by sending carroll out on loan and then forcing them to conclude the dempsey deal.

[Mattshark]

Right so if offers **** all how come west ham who built their attack around him are sitting 3 places above us.

Getting rid of them might be the right thing to do but by making it crystal clear to the whole world theyre not wanted weve already knocked off half what theyre worth. Horses for courses et al but downing hardly seems the type to get a kick up the arse from a public bollocking.

Bas knee might be dodgy but hes stil playing regularly enough.

Ok so fsg didnt want to spend 8m cash on dempsey but sanctioned a swap deal for 13m henderson. So is dempsey not worth 8m but its ok to swap him for a 13m midfield player.

Well that is a rather silly way of arguing it isn't now.

Yes, and will he be in 3 months?

Downing is not going to suddenly become a great player because the manager tells him he is.

Henderson cost 13m a year before, that doesn't reflect his current value to us. Again, a silly way of looking at it.

[el matador]

considering carroll just made his first contribution in a match where they dropped points, i'd say west ham are above us despite having him rather than because.

Dave... Have you ever considered that he might be creating space for others by putting himself around.