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So you think you know better than Brendan?
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Yes it is. But that doesn't make him right.
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Chris Bascombe
Liverpool have already missed out on the playmaker and manager Brendan Rodgers has expressed his disappointment at seeing his club lose the race for what he described as “non-football reasons”.
The Merseysiders were convinced they had a deal for £27 million for the midfielder last weekend, but the fee increased when Spurs entered the race.
The 25-year-old instead spent the past three days in negotiations at White Hart Lane, although they were still awaiting confirmation that he would sign.
Rodgers was evidently frustrated he had not secured a player he said would have been a “perfect” addition. “No, it wasn’t a football one [decision] and I don’t really want to go into it.
"That’s for us as a club really,” he said. “The bottom line is he hasn’t come here for whatever reason and we move on. We identify the targets and then try and get the deal done financially. The club has pushed financially as hard as they felt they could but it wasn’t to be.
“The owners have the money and know what they can and can’t spend. I can push and do everything to get the player in, but it’s their money.”
The philosophy of FSG is established, principal owner John W Henry adamant he will not overpay because he believes Liverpool have been stung too often in the past.
“It would have been great if it was Willian. It wasn’t to be, but we can’t lose sight of trying to get the right player in,” said Rodgers.
“I think the owners will spend the money. They are ambitious for the club to progress and get into the Champions League places, and we also know in order to not get left behind you have to spend money.
“That’s rightly important, to get quality in to help you progress, and the owners want to do that. We just need to make sure we can compete and get some players in.”
Asked who had the final say as to how much the club will pay for any player, Rodgers said: “It’s the owners’ money and they will always have the final say because it’s they who run the club. What they have taken on here is a huge job.
"You have seen over the few years they will finance a project and what we have to make sure of is we get the right players and the value and worth of the player is right.
“It’s disappointing because this was a player who would have been perfect for us. We expect to be the best we can possibly be, but that means getting the best players. It’s not just a player, but the right player. Where they can, the owners will finance that.
“We’ve sat down with the recruitment guys, working tirelessly really, so we hope to unearth something before the window shuts. The challenge is the same.
“Chelsea have won the Champions League and spent millions upon millions, Tottenham could spend up to 90-odd million and they are outside the Champions League.
“For us it is a huge, huge challenge. But I don’t want to be defeatist. We can’t accept that. But make no mistake about it, it’s a big, big ask and a big challenge.”
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Well, for this type of project you back your man 100%. Questioning his judgement in this way is only going to have an adverse effect at such an important stage of the transfer window.Originally posted by dom9 View Post"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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Nothing new there Marcus.Are we winning?Comment
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@kopite_chris78 just made the same point on Twitter, it all fits together nowOriginally posted by Chris View Post
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Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
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I don't think it's that simple. FSG must be getting their opinion on value from somewhere. It's not like there's a Glass's Guide valuation on a used Willian with big hair.Originally posted by Tee View Post
There has to be a process, some kind of system, they aren't just plucking it out of thin air..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Well no actually. Sometimes you actually have to manage your employees and ensure that they work within the parameters given to them. IMO of course.Originally posted by Tee View PostOh I don't know.Comment
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Exactly how much money do you think £30 million is by the way. Rodgers may have wanted him but for that amount of cash no football club manager/ head coach should be allowed to make a unilateral decision on spend because they "really, really want a player". He says he wants him, we assess a value and negotiate on that basis and if the selling club don't like our bid (which up until Spurs got involved they appeared to do) then we move on.Originally posted by Tee View Post
I find the whole attitude that a couple of million is like loose change that we can toss about totally baffling. It's a ****load of money and even in context shouldn't be considered as anything other than that.A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.Comment
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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I get that, but this is not any type of normal job. This is a quest, a journey that could write someone's name into the history books of an amazing mythical club.Originally posted by dom9 View Post
BR has shown this year that we are on the right track. His team needs a catalyst or two to take it to the next level. He deserves that backing IMO.
But if these are the parameters he has to work within, the expectations of everyone (owners included) need to be re-aligned to a fight to stay in the top 7 or 8 rather than top 4."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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Its £5m less than we paid for a Geordie donkey.Originally posted by Rowan View Post
Its also a figure that would take our net spend to £24m max. Everything is relative - we have the new tv deal money, the club makes shed loads of money from the massive fanbase we have. We should be able to afford this."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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Interesting reading the extra bits
One minor request though. Highlighting one bit for emphasis = cool, but highligting loads of bits randomly makes my eyes hurt
And its a bit selective...
Why not highlight this bit too for example? -I think the owners will spend the money. They are ambitious for the club to progress and get into the Champions League places, and we also know in order to not get left behind you have to spend money.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
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Anyhow, off to another theme park in the morning. Another rollercoaster day awaits!!"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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Are you going on your own again, Tee?.
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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