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    Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
    I think clearly they're happy with the ideology of Rodgers, but aren't convinced he has the experience around him to pull it off. It's what every fan has said, so the changes should be welcomed.

    I'm actually very happy with the changes, but much like our early moves in the transfer market, it's all dependant on who else comes through the door.
    Buck stops with the manager. Always has always will. Reflects very badly on the man himself that he'll bin his own men off while staying himself. From the outside it appears he thinks he's not at fault but they are. If they were told to go he should have went with them. He picked them, he trusted them, he's the major part of that setup that failed.
    Last edited by G; 06-06-15, 03:01 PM.

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      Originally posted by G View Post
      Buck stops with the manager. Always has always will. Reflects very badly on the man himself that he'll bin his own men off while staying himself. From the outside it appears he thinks he's not at fault but they are. If they were told to go he should have went with them. He picked them, he trusted them, he's the major part of that setup that failed.
      I don't see why they should get rid of a coach they rate if they believe he's good enough. In fact, they'd be foolish to do so. I can't see why people wouldn't embrace this change if it meant our coaching set up was going to the next level.

      Like you I was all for sacking him, but if this way improves us then I can't say I'd care. In fact I'd be delighted. All this bull**** about saying he should walk regardless is ridiculous. Who cares about morals, I want what's best for the club, not the principle of it all.

      If Rodgers is being tough skinned and binning of his allies then I think that's a perfect example to show he's fully dedicated to the cause and open to change if that is what is needed.

      Do I think this will all work out? I don't know. I don't know the inner workings of the club and I wasn't in the meeting. I don't know if Rodgers strongly objected or if this was his own idea. It'll either be the making of him as our manager or it's the beginning of the end and we get the sacking we were looking for.

      I hope it's the start of a bright future under Rodgers and I would every fan of the club hopes the same. I don't care within reason who is in charge of we are winning and if he can bring us success I'll be delighted.
      Forwards.......

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        Jay Riley said it would cost £9m to sack him. If Rodgers position wasn't untenable before, fsg are trying to make it that way as we speak. They're cutting the legs from under him. His authority is being diminished. I don't believe he would happily throw his best mate under the bus like that. It is very rare for a club to sack an assistant manager and the rest of the coaching staff whilst keeping the manager. Rodgers is clearly being undermined and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's just a question of whether he will walk. People say his ego will stop him from doing that and they're probably right. However, Rodgers ain't seeing out the season imho.

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          Yeah they should back him if they believe in him. Poor form from him though letting those lads take the blame. It wasn't Pascoe picking no strikers, or marsh making 4 formation changes a game. The manager has looked clueless the last few weeks and him and the owners are happy to let the other lads carry the can for it. If it works great. Can't see it though. It's like the joint manager bollox, introducing their own decision makers on the side while leaving the current one in place

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            It does appear he's on borrowed time. I've never seen a backroom staff sacked yet the manager stays. Seems like FSG are "managing him out the business".

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              Wouldn't surprise me if we hired Klopps assistants, subtle hint and to save time in December when Brendan ****s it up

              *disclaimer* I don't think we'll do this*

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                Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
                I don't buy into the idea that Lambert was bought to be some sort of B plan involving a big strong frontman to win balls when the high pressure A plan failed.

                Lambert was not used in that manner for Southampton and he played a pretty important role in being a link man in their high pressure style of playing.

                If anything the way Lambert played, and the role in which he was deployed, for Southampton should have allowed him to slot into our pressure game and play his part.

                What Rodgers did after we got Lambert was to not use the guy in the role he was doing well in, and when he did play the guy it was often in a role or system that played to every weakness in Lambert's game rather than using his strengths.

                Balotelli I could see an arguement for being described as a plan B, but Lambert came with a track record of being able to do well within a pressuring style team, and a track record of being able to link play well for his fellow attackers and for any midfielders breaking forward.


                For me it is one of two things when it comes to Balotelli, Lambert, Borini etc last season. Either Rodgers was not able to see what the players were good at doing for previous clubs and what systems they did well in, or he did see what they were good at and just chose to ignore it thinking that he could make square pegs fit round holes.

                What role his backroom staff played in his ideas, strategies, footballing philosophies none of us can really know, but maybe a case can be made for him having too many yes men around him for him to be given an reason to question whether or not a strategy/tactic/selection was actually the right one to implement given the available resources (players, and coaches)

                The right manager is the most important part of the puzzle for me, but it could be said that in order for a manager to become the right manager he needs to have the right men around so that he can become enabled.

                spot on about the misuse of lambert, and also agree with rodgers surrounding himself in too many yes men. no one was going to offer alternatives, just keep saying yes boss.
                removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                  our new no.2 could be pako ayesteran.
                  [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                    SteveHothersall ‏@stevehothersall 11m11 minutes ago
                    Lots of rumours about a Pako return.

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                      Just led Maccabi Tel Aviv the first ever Treble in Israeli football winning the Championship, State Cup, and the Toto Cup. Would he consider an assistant role despite now being ahead Coach?

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                        Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                        SteveHothersall ‏@stevehothersall 11m11 minutes ago
                        Lots of rumours about a Pako return.

                        brilliant guy, and a top coach tactically as well as technically. Cant do much better.
                        [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                          Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                          SteveHothersall ‏@stevehothersall 11m11 minutes ago
                          Lots of rumours about a Pako return.

                          Be interesting one, its fair to say some of the glitter rubbed off Rafa Benitez after he left. But he's tasted success as a manager now...would he step down?

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                            Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                            Just led Maccabi Tel Aviv the first ever Treble in Israeli football winning the Championship, State Cup, and the Toto Cup. Would he consider an assistant role despite now being ahead Coach?
                            would rodgers accept such an experienced coach / manager as his assistant. The story is that you always want your no.2 to be good but not as good as you.
                            [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                              Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
                              Be interesting one, its fair to say some of the glitter rubbed off Rafa Benitez after he left.
                              benitez wasnt the same again.
                              [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                                Curiouser and curiouser.
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