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    #20161
    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    Like loaning out £20m Markovic and £12m Moreno etc. An absolute shambles.
    It's just such monumental waste.

    That article Marcus posted really boiled my piss

    Out of interest, anyone know if any of the supposed Rodgers signings have come from outside the premier league? If he has consolidated his position, will we be mainly shopping in the Premier League in future transfer windows?

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      #20162
      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
      What a ****in mess. We have a load players essentially brought in by other fellas, and a load brought in by the manager. The manager doesn't pick the lads brought in by the other fellas, and instead picks his own signings, many of whom have been ****e but he picks them regardless.

      How is this a system that is going to work?
      Originally posted by Mattshark View Post



      It is worrying and it's part of why I can't see us really improving enough this year.
      I think a lot of this seems to come from a determination to create a narrative. The club works slightly differently to others and has made decisions people outside it don't seem to understand (like keeping Rodgers and ditching coaching staff) but nonetheless weave into a story.

      Other than Sakho is there really a case for any of the other players starting on footballing grounds? Even with Sakho you could make the argument that if you want a settled CB pairing then Sakho's injuries make him a less compelling option.

      That's not to say things have been done or planned well more that it is a bit early in the season for grand statements. There is the feeling of PR or at least looking to help a relationship with Rodgers to a lot of the pieces coming out at the minute. If the less than coherent nature of our squad is Rodgers fault then we should have sacked him.

      Judging from
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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        #20163
        Judging from what?! Come on man!!
        I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
        There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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          #20164
          Originally posted by Fierce View Post
          Judging from what?! Come on man!!


          .... one game early in the season is not necessarily going to lead us to making the most accurate conclusions.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
          -- William Blake

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            #20165
            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            What a ****in mess. We have a load players essentially brought in by other fellas, and a load brought in by the manager. The manager doesn't pick the lads brought in by the other fellas, and instead picks his own signings, many of whom have been ****e but he picks them regardless.

            How is this a system that is going to work?
            We're the only 'top' club in the PL where it's a crisis when players aren't picked.
            Every other PL club is allowed a squad, we have a first team and anyone not in it is an 'outcast' or 'available for sale' according to the media.

            Lucas cannot play in this team, he just isn't mobile enough anymore after his injuries, he's been on his way out for 12-18 months now.
            Moreno missed a bit of pre season and Gomez is the more defensive option away to Stoke.
            Sakho is the strange one that most of us agree on, however Lovren played as well as we've seen on Sunday and if he continues with that then fair play but every club needs a strong squad and Sakho gives us that.
            The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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              #20166
              Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
              We're the only 'top' club in the PL where it's a crisis when players aren't picked.
              Every other PL club is allowed a squad, we have a first team and anyone not in it is an 'outcast' or 'available for sale' according to the media.

              Lucas cannot play in this team, he just isn't mobile enough anymore after his injuries, he's been on his way out for 12-18 months now.
              Moreno missed a bit of pre season and Gomez is the more defensive option away to Stoke.
              Sakho is the strange one that most of us agree on, however Lovren played as well as we've seen on Sunday and if he continues with that then fair play but every club needs a strong squad and Sakho gives us that.
              Don't forget that if we did know what the reason was for Sakho not playing it would be "a disgrace and we should do things behind closed doors" comments.
              Go **** yourself

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                #20167
                Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                Its a system that didn't work. I think the point of the article is that this was identified as the root cause of our problems and rectified this summer.

                Going into radio silence nearly all summer (how often do we not hear from Henry, his wife, or Rodgers?) meant there must have been some loud noises in private.
                The problem is only rectified IF Brendans buys prove successful frankly I think Brendan has as many question marks against him in this department as the committee does (Allen, Borini, Lovren..). It will also only be rectified if his selections of his players prove to be better than those hes left out (I'd argue Sakho is a much better player than Lovren so again there are question marks against him)

                Successfully identifying the problem and actually resolving it are 2 entirely different things and its impossible to say whether we have done either of those things successfully yet
                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                  #20168
                  Originally posted by Boogar View Post
                  Don't forget that if we did know what the reason was for Sakho not playing it would be "a disgrace and we should do things behind closed doors" comments.

                  No matter who initiated any transfer of course Rodgers puts out the best team possible. He's not a five year old ffs...
                  "Justice has been done."

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                    #20169
                    absolute need for a squad and for good players for all positions

                    but sakho should have at least been on the bench. We had Kolo instead incase there were injuries to Lovren/Skrtel

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                      #20170
                      Nobody is suggesting he's acting like a five year old.

                      Do you not recognise that managers can sometimes have favourites, or players that they (wrongly) don't trust or are unwilling to give space to develop?

                      Whichever manager it is, it is damn frustrating as a fan.

                      Still, he's the manager and it is his responsibility at the end of the day. At least responsibilities, and accountabilities, are a little clearer now if media briefings are to be believed.

                      I think it's entirely natural though to be a bit frustrated at the treatment of Sakho last season or playing players out of position rather than specialists.

                      Still, that is more a hangover from last season. We're one game in, maybe things will be different this year. I'm glad he's been given another season to get things right.
                      Last edited by Saveloy; 11-08-15, 11:02 AM.

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                        #20171
                        I said this about Sakho two years ago and most of you ****ers rounded on me

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                          #20172
                          Bloody Sakho! It was he and Skrtel in the middle last season when we conceded 6 at Stoke!

                          Yes there were other problems that contributed to that result, but feck me, he's not the missing magic ingredient, in fact he's extremely bloody average, not the quality we need to improve at all.
                          SakhoPotatoes

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                            #20173
                            Originally posted by tanner View Post
                            Bloody Sakho! It was he and Skrtel in the middle last season when we conceded 6 at Stoke!

                            Yes there were other problems that contributed to that result, but feck me, he's not the missing magic ingredient, in fact he's extremely bloody average, not the quality we need to improve at all.
                            Hes still a better player than Lovren
                            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                              #20174
                              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                              Hes still a better player than Lovren
                              So is Brendan.
                              SakhoPotatoes

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                                #20175
                                I don't see that he's exclusively frozen out the committee signings. He didn't play Borini or Lambert last season unless he absolutely had to.

                                Loaning out Moreno & Markovic would completely stupid.

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