Rafa Watch

[Drago]

I really hope we don't see NESV bringing Rafa back. The club needs to move forwards and not backwards. The Roy Hodgson experiment is an almighty cock up but it doesn't mean that the decision to part ways with Rafa was entirely wrong.

[Ben_Itez]

Were we not meant to be getting away from these circular arguments?

Funny how the same irritants are littering this thread with their anti-Rafa comments. Can't wait to tell everyone how badly he's doing at Inter. Pathetic.

[Mattshark]

Respectfully disagree

fair enough

[Craig_H]

Were we not meant to be getting away from these circular arguments?

Funny how the same irritants are littering this thread with their anti-Rafa comments. Can't wait to tell everyone how badly he's doing at Inter. Pathetic.

It's a thread about Rafa's fortunes at Inter - and he IS doing badly.

What shall we do, only discuss wins?

You're like a manager who blames the papers for getting him the sack, because they're printing the scores

[Arn]

You can state your opinion of why it wouldnt be wise to consider what rafa's done at inter, but you cannot say what NESV will or wont do, because you do not know. You state your opinion as fact, which is irritating beyond belief.

And your nonsensical bile re Gerrard, is really starting to irk.

If you think that Gerrard don't have very much influence of the pitch then that is laughable IMO.

He isn't any different to what Raul was at Real or Henry at Arsenal or Eto'o and Ronaldinho at Barcelona. Players with much influence of the pitch and the club need to get rid be able to move forward.

Fantastic players but also with big egos.

Gerrard isn't a god you know. He is a player that want what is best for himself just as many other players. He make mistakes and acts like a **** sometimes just as many other players.

[kingfunk]

I really hope we don't see NESV bringing Rafa back. The club needs to move forwards and not backwards. The Roy Hodgson experiment is an almighty cock up but it doesn't mean that the decision to part ways with Rafa was entirely wrong.

They have way more sense than that.

[Craig_H]

If you think that Gerrard don't have very much influence of the pitch then that is laughable IMO.

He isn't any different to what Raul was at Real or Henry at Arsenal or Eto'o and Ronaldinho at Barcelona. Players with much influence of the pitch and the club need to get rid be able to move forward.

Fantastic players but also with big egos.

Gerrard isn't a god you know. He is a player that want what is best for himself just as many other players. He make mistakes and acts like a **** sometimes just as many other players.

Nowhere near the so-called influence you think he does.

How do you know what gerrard wants?

Of course he makes mistakes and acts wrongly sometimes - like every single player in the world.

[dom9]

We should be doing better, but we were in a bad state. Finishing 7th, no money to spend and having many unhappy players, one of our world class players jumps ship too, but yes of course we should be doing better, not denying that.

But we have a good squad still, a poor season doesn't mean we were in a bad state. In the board room we may have been but we have some good players and a decent squad.

You're digging yourself into a hole now, because if you're saying we werent in a bad state and that we have good players/decent squad, it means rafa must've messed up in order for us to have finished 7th

I don't think we have a good squad, hence having the likes of Eccelston,Spearing,Poulsen,Jovo,Babel on the bench every week, peppered with weak links we are IMO.

But we should be doing better than current position suggests, IMO poor manager and poor squad. Both need to be addressed.

Rafa not getting right was part of our problem last season (other factors contributed too though).

If you think that Gerrard don't have very much influence of the pitch then that is laughable IMO.

He isn't any different to what Raul was at Real or Henry at Arsenal or Eto'o and Ronaldinho at Barcelona. Players with much influence of the pitch and the club need to get rid be able to move forward.

Fantastic players but also with big egos.

Gerrard isn't a god you know. He is a player that want what is best for himself just as many other players. He make mistakes and acts like a **** sometimes just as many other players.

Rafa watch you say?

[Ben_Itez]

It's a thread about Rafa's fortunes at Inter - and he IS doing badly.

What shall we do, only discuss wins?

You're like a manager who blames the papers for getting him the sack, because they're printing the scores

Haha i'd knew you'd pipe up. I wasnt actually referring to you and anyway i couldnt really give a **** what you think tbh

.....and he is doing fairly badly. Some people seem to be delighting in it. Still early days yet and i've posted my views on Rafa at Inter previously in this thread. I don't actually think he will last all that long myself.

[Craig_H]

Haha i'd knew you'd pipe up. I wasnt actually referring to you and anyway i couldnt really give a **** what you think tbh

It was still a daft post. :bird:

[Ben_Itez]

Ive edited my quoted post above.

I know he's doing fairly badly that is not my point. It's certain anti-Rafa posters who seem to be dominating this thread delighting in the fact with a 'told you he was ****' kind of attitude which is bugging me.

[Craig_H]

Possibly right, but unavoidable and not entirely out of context.

I've already said i'd like him back, but he isnt doing well at all just now.

[Leyton388]

Looks like he will be out the door soon. Rafa should have taken a season off to get himself back together. Rafa has had a lot of hit to deal with as he has not only had to keep doing his job but he was fighting a losing battle at LFC for almost 3 years that took its toll.

[Kenneth]

Ive edited my quoted post above.

I know he's doing fairly badly that is not my point. It's certain anti-Rafa posters who seem to be dominating this thread delighting in the fact with a 'told you he was ****' kind of attitude which is bugging me.

Then grow a pair.

[DannyMan2006]

I really hope we don't see NESV bringing Rafa back. The club needs to move forwards and not backwards. The Roy Hodgson experiment is an almighty cock up but it doesn't mean that the decision to part ways with Rafa was entirely wrong.

He's one of the few top managers managers in the world. He's not quite up there with Mourinho but some of that is down to bad choices on Rafas part and bad luck.

Had Rafa won the league with LFC and won Seria A he'd be classed in Mourinhos bracket. He's made a terrible judgement call going to Inter and will leave a failure in the near future. Wrong to go there and he's had bad luck on the injury front and was not backed in the transfer market. But he would have known what he was getting himself into.

Would I have him back at Liverpool? Yes. He made mistakes, but when he was getting it right he had his team ripped apart by financial constraints. And let's be honest, there is no better manager out there who we could bring in. At best the other stand out candidates have potential. None have proven anything.

Rafa has proven he can compete with the best in Europe. And has proven he understands the club. He was on his way to the Holy Grail and I'd love him to get a chance to win it with proper financial backing.