Rafa Watch

[Craig_H]

The pitch in Verona, is shockingly bad

[anfieldanfield]

Inter are free-falling towards mid-table. Pretty shocking from the same squad that lifted the title last season.

Their mid-week Champions League game is a biggie now.

[Craig_H]

I am not, I am just saying that they haven't been that low.

But we're talking about where teams are right now. Taking our lowest position from weeks ago, isnt comparing like for like, nor is it relevant. We're talking about things as they stand now.

[dom9]

2-0 Chievo

Such a poor goal to concede defensively, too. Very un-Rafa defending.

It's all relative.

And anyway, Inter are currently 6th - we're not currently 19th. You're shifting time to suit the argument.

Was it zonal marking?

[danperkins]

Considering what Rafa came into and what Roy came into and then losing Masch, Rafa has underachieve more so than Roy. The premier league is more competitive than Serie A too, Moratti and the Inter fans will not stand for the poor performance Rafa has put in so far, especially with that classy side.

[Craig_H]

Was it zonal marking?

It wasnt a set piece, it was a counter attack, Chievo broke down the right, the player was rightly not flagged offside. He then controlled it and looked up, 3 or 4 defenders had got back into the box - he played it low, near post and the Chievo man got to it before the defender, to finish.

Inter defenders were basically stood, in an unorganised manner, just watching.

[danperkins]

Inter will be 7th if Palermo win i think on goal difference. 9 points off Milan, and we are 9 points off Chelsea, hmmmmmm

[Mattshark]

But we're talking about where teams are right now. Taking our lowest position from weeks ago, isnt comparing like for like, nor is it relevant. We're talking about things as they stand now.

I wasn't attempting to do that. I was talking about the worst that each team has achieved this season, even from differing start points, our lowest has very much exceed their lowest.

[Craig_H]

I am not, I am just saying that they haven't been that low, and it was a position that we should have never, ever have been in. Inter should be doing better yes, but I don't think that Rafa has taken Inter down in a way that Roy has done to us.

Positionally speaking, there's not much in it.

In fact, Roy took over a 7th placed side and we're now 9th.

Rafa took over the champions and they're now 5 places lower than their end position last year.

In fact, if Palermo hold onto their 1-2 lead in Cesena, they'll go level on points with Inter, with a better goals scored (equal GD). I know it's done on head-to-head results in Serie A, but the point is, they've fallen drastically from where they finished last year. We havent. Not in terms of position, anyway.

[Craig_H]

Inter will be 7th if Palermo win i think on goal difference. 9 points off Milan, and we are 9 points off Chelsea, hmmmmmm

Actually, the goal difference will be the same. Palermo have scored more though.

And in any case, goal difference doesnt mean **** in Serie A. Know your football, sonny

[Mattshark]

Considering what Rafa came into and what Roy came into and then losing Masch, Rafa has underachieve more so than Roy. The premier league is more competitive than Serie A too, Moratti and the Inter fans will not stand for the poor performance Rafa has put in so far, especially with that classy side.

Serie A is very competitive this season, and it is not like the prem has been highly competitive up until this season.

[danperkins]

Positionally speaking, there's not much in it.

In fact, Roy took over a 7th placed side and we're now 9th.

Rafa took over the champions and they're now 5 places lower than their end position last year.

In fact, if Palermo hold onto their 1-2 lead in Cesena, they'll go level on points with Inter, with a better goals scored (equal GD). I know it's done on head-to-head results in Serie A, but the point is, they've fallen drastically from where they finished last year. We havent. Not in terms of position, anyway.

all valid points

[Craig_H]

I wasn't attempting to do that. I was talking about the worst that each team has achieved this season, even from differing start points, our lowest has very much exceed their lowest.

Means **** all though. Bolton are 4th right now, but it's meaningless.

[wiw]

They're having a terrible time of it with injuries at the moment aren't they?

[Craig_H]

They're having a terrible time of it with injuries at the moment aren't they?

They have a few injuries, yeah. Still have plenty enough to be doing better than 6th or 7th though.

His days are numbered IMO.