Joël Matip

[Lecter]

Obviously the AFCON is a complete and utter nuisance for the Premier League but we have to also respect that it's not really fair on the Cameroon FA and the fans of the international team to enter the tournament without 7 players that would normally be picked. Is there nothing to be said for players representing their countries anymore or am I being too patriotic?

If the issue was with the previous regime, why not play under the new regime? If the issue is with the Cameroonian FA then it should have been resolved before the tournament.

Obviously, there are other things to take into consideration here like the possibility of lack of communication and approachability from their FA for Matip to resolve the situation.

Surely its got to be the players choice

Forcing them to play is ****ing madness in the extreme

He could go there extremely unhappy, go out on the pitch and do absolutely nothing if he wanted to, let strikers waltz passed him

I get the general principle that you dont want players picking and choosing which tournaments they play in. But if a player says thats it I am done I am retired I think its counter-productive to try and force him to go and then punish him for not going

Fine try and persuade him to reconsider but if he cant change his mind you have to respect his decision and move on

[fah-q]

I must admit I have felt uncomfortable using that word but struggling to find another

It wasn't aimed at you but it's something I've seen a few places now.

I don't know what other word to use either.

[dom9]

Forced labour?

[Alex]

Forced labour is any work or services which people are forced to do against their will under the threat of some form punishment.

Id say that about covers it. I do think calling it Slavery is quite dramatic for what is essentially a millionaire not wanting to go and play a game of football.

[kev776]

For Lec.

The Cameroon FA have been rumored to hand out bans to players who refuse to make themselves available for International duty.....End of Discussion.
https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/st...84111135571968

And he didn't.

[Lecter]

For Lec.




And he didn't.

No disrespect but Goal.com is hardly credible

I've read the FIFA rules themselves theres no clause about putting any retirement in writing that they are suggesting

None

Its completely at the discretion of the FA

[Lecter]

ANNEXE 1
RELEASE OF PLAYERS TO ASSOCIATION TEAMS
Article 1 Principles
1. Clubs are obliged to release their registered players to the
representative teams of the country for which the player is eligible
to play on the basis of his nationality if they are called up by the
association concerned. Any agreement between a player and a
club to the contrary is prohibited.
2. The release of players under the terms of paragraph 1 of this
article is mandatory for matches on dates listed in the coordinated
international match calendar and for all matches for which a duty
to release players exists on the basis of a special decision by the FIFA
Executive Committee.
3. It is not compulsory to release players for matches scheduled on
dates not listed in the coordinated international match calendar.
4. Players must also be released for the period of preparation before
the match, which is laid down as follows:
a) friendly matches: 48 hours;
b) qualifying matches for an international tournament: four days
(including the day of the match). The release period shall be
extended to fi ve days if the match concerned is held in a different
confederation to the one in which the player’s club is registered;
c) qualifying matches for an international tournament that are staged
on a date reserved for friendly matches: 48 hours;
d) friendly matches that are staged on a date reserved for qualifying
matches for an international tournament: 48 hours;
e) the fi nal competition of an international tournament: 14 days
before the fi rst match in the competition.
Players shall join the association team no later than 48 hours before
kick-off.
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5. The players of associations that have automatically qualifi ed for
the fi nal competition of the FIFA World Cup™ or for continental
championships for national “A” teams shall be released for friendly
matches on dates reserved for official qualifying matches in
accordance with the directives that would apply for offi cial matches
staged on those dates.
6. The clubs and associations concerned may agree a longer period of
release.
7. Players complying with a call-up from their association under the terms
of this article shall resume duty with their clubs no later than 24 hours
after the end of the match for which they were called up. This period
shall be extended to 48 hours if the match concerned took place in
a different confederation to the one in which the player’s club is
registered. Clubs shall be informed in writing of a player’s outbound
and return schedule ten days before the match. Associations shall
ensure that players are able to return to their clubs on time after the
match.
8. If a player does not resume duty with his club by the deadline
stipulated in this article, the next time the player is called up by his
association, the period of release shall be shortened as follows:
a) friendly matches: 24 hours;
b) qualifying matches: three days;
c) the fi nal competition of an international tournament: ten days.
9. Should an association repeatedly breach these provisions, the
FIFA Players’ Status Committee may impose appropriate sanctions,
including but not limited to:
a) fi nes;
b) a reduction of the period of release;
c) a ban on calling up a player(s) for subsequent match(es).
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Article 2 Financial provisions and insurance
1. Clubs releasing a player in accordance with the provisions of this
annexe are not entitled to fi nancial compensation.
2. The association calling up a player shall bear the costs of travel incurred
by the player as a result of the call-up.
3. The club with which the player concerned is registered shall be
responsible for his insurance cover against illness and accident during
the entire period of his release. This cover must also extend to any
injuries sustained by the player during the international match(es) for
which he was released.
Article 3 Calling up players
1. As a general rule, every player registered with a club is obliged
to respond affi rmatively when called up by the association he is
eligible to represent on the basis of his nationality to play for one of
its representative teams.
2. Associations wishing to call up a player who is playing abroad must
notify the player in writing at least 15 days before the day of the
match for which he is required. Associations wishing to call up a player
for the fi nal competition of an international tournament must notify
the player in writing at least 15 days before the beginning of the
14-day preparation period (cf. Annexe 1 article 1 paragraph 4 e)).
The player’s club shall also be informed in writing at the same time.
The club must confi rm the release of the player within the following
six days.
3. Associations that request FIFA’s help to obtain the release of a player
playing abroad may only do so under the following two conditions:
a) The association at which the player is registered has been asked to
intervene without success.
b) The case is submitted to FIFA at least fi ve days before the day of
the match for which the player is needed.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

[Rowan]

The fifa guidelines don't address the issue though.

[Lecter]

The fifa guidelines don't address the issue though.

I think it's left to the discretion of the relevant FA

[Lecter]

'You are not allowed to retire from International football, we own you, you're a slave' : Platini


Franck Ribery will have to serve three-match ban if he refuses to play for France, says UEFA president Michel Platini
Bayern Munich's Franck Ribery retired from international duty in August
However Michel Platini has warned Ribery that he will have to play for France if selected by manager Didier Deschamps
Ribery stated he wants to focus on his Bayern Munich career
UEFA president Michel Platini has threatened to hand Franck Ribery a three-match ban if he refuses to join up with the French national team - despite the fact the Bayern Munich attacker has retired from international football.

Ribery, who missed the 2014 World Cup through injury, announced his retirement from the international scene in August.

However Platini claims Ribery's decision to retire from international duty is out of his hands as Les Bleus coach Didier Deschamps has the final say on who he chooses to select in his squad.

Ribery, 31, said at the time of his retirement that he felt it was time for France's younger players to be given prominent roles in the national team squad.
Former France boss Platini, speaking to Bild, said of his compatriot's international future: 'It is not the decision of the players, whether they come to the national team. This is the decision of the coach.

'If there is disagreement between Lahm and [Joachim] Low, the Germany coach will no longer call on him, that's one thing. But basically it is not Lahm's decision, it's Low's.

'[With Ribery] it's a very different situation. Franck Ribery cannot simply decide whether he plays for France or not. If coach Didier Deschamps invites him, he must come to the national team.

'This is defined in the Fifa statutes. If he does not come, he is suspended for three games with Bayern Munich. I don't understand him anyway. He is French, the European Championship in 2016 will take place in France!'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz3Ci5egxVQ
Sep 8, 2014

[Lecter]

It's fundamentally wrong as a rule

I get that they don't want players to pick tournaments and matches but to force a retired player to play is nonsense

[Lecter]

This is a Makele / France row from 2006

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/5291486.stm

[dom9]

Conscription


compulsory enlistment for state service, typically into the armed forces.

[Charly]

Surely its restraint of trade... the european courts should sort this?

[Roboklopp]

Should go and score a double hat trick of OGs.