Boxing

[John Barnes]

Had better ****s than that fight...Fury is way way past it!

[fidget]

No way Fury lost that by 4 rounds

Yeah it was more like 6

[Doc_Piptorious]

Better guy on the night won.

Again.


No excuses this time for Fury. He claimed he had a great camp, claimed he was ready, claimed he had great sparring etc etc.


He was unable to use his greater reach, greater height, greater weight and supposed greater power tell.


Probably the best I have ever seen Fury fight and he was still clearly second best overall. Usyk was simply that good and Usyk gave the impression he had gears to go through when needed.



Dubois and Frank Warren looking and sounding like thick mugs in the ring after the fight.

[RichC]

Had Usyk by 2, 4 seems a stretch. Right winner thought

[chadrtc]

No way Fury lost that by 4 rounds

I thought that decision was about right, I had Usyk comfortably ahead, even though there were a lot of close rounds.

[Le Chef]

No way Fury lost that by 4 rounds

[Doc_Piptorious]

Badly worded on my part. Was trying to take the piss, implying that you don't seem to hold the anti-English sentiment that some of your countrymen do. Although, clearly my comments weren't taken in the jest that they were intended. Let's keep it to the boxing and I'll slip back into obscurity.

There would have been no hostility towards you either way, as you are level headed in anything you post. I just did not want to take something the wrong way and then argue against a point that you had never made in the first point

And you are correct, I don't have any anti-English sentiment over the history that Britain/England shares with Ireland. I know my history. I know what was done on Irish soil. I know that my ancestors would have suffered at the hands of British/English troops be it going back hundreds of years or more recently (in relative terms) at the hands of say the Black and Tans.

But I can no more blame someone now for something that was done a hundred years ago than someone in the UK could blame me for an IRA attack in the 1970s or 1980s though the latter example is going to be fresher as it is living memory for many and as such I have been on the receiving end on comments of that nature. ( Stay classy Leeds/Bradford airport security staff you knobs. Think I have never had a positive experience in Leeds be it travelling or at the footy )


Though it would be amusing to come on here and start fueds with folk claiming their kin did whatever to my kin and that now there will be eternal cyber blood to have.

Might try that with Spud Gun actually. My ancestors saved his years ago as seen in the documentary Braveheart, but his countrymen then insulted us by having Gerard Butler do an awful Oirish accent in some god awful romcom that I had the misfortune to have to sit through some years back.


Oh and as for your signing off line saying you will slip back into obscurity, I hope not as when you do post on various topics, boxing or otherwise, what you have to say is usually genuinely interesting and the forum is poorer for not having more of that in it.

[Zapater]

Could you expand on what exactly you are saying with that so I don't misunderstand your meaning?


It could be taken a number of ways so do not want to assume one way if meant in another.

Badly worded on my part. Was trying to take the piss, implying that you don't seem to hold the anti-English sentiment that some of your countrymen do. Although, clearly my comments weren't taken in the jest that they were intended. Let's keep it to the boxing and I'll slip back into obscurity.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Never said you were, although a sympathiser perhaps.

Could you expand on what exactly you are saying with that so I don't misunderstand your meaning?


It could be taken a number of ways so do not want to assume one way if meant in another.

[Zapater]

Maybe one day Saudi can reform and overcome these blatant abuses of fundamental rights, and we can hold their future generations responsible for the current restrictions.

Hardly that far removed though? Was being deliberately abrasive but people don't watch every Premier League match saying 'it's a pity this is hosted in a place that raped and pillaged most of the world and left it in the ****ed up state it is in today". So if everything that happens in Saudi is somehow related to the non-sporting or unrelated policy there, then shouldn't it be boycotted? Football, boxing, golf and so on?

Good thing I am not from the UK then


However should folk from the UK (and elsewhere) not want to see their own dark distant and not so distant pasts repeating elsewhere in 2024?

Do not see a problem in condeming such "laws" in 2024 especially when the country that has those laws is also trying to proclaim itself as being a progressive modern state.

Never said you were, although a sympathiser perhaps.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Or the UK recently: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-four-1967-act

Not a fan of Saudi but love how judgmental people from the UK are of other countries, where they are literally from the greatest tyranny of modern history.

Good thing I am not from the UK then


However should folk from the UK (and elsewhere) not want to see their own dark distant and not so distant pasts repeating elsewhere in 2024?

Do not see a problem in condeming such "laws" in 2024 especially when the country that has those laws is also trying to proclaim itself as being a progressive modern state.

[Kenneth]

Maybe one day Saudi can reform and overcome these blatant abuses of fundamental rights, and we can hold their future generations responsible for the current restrictions.

[Zapater]

Or the UK recently: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-four-1967-act

Not a fan of Saudi but love how judgmental people from the UK are of other countries, where they are literally from the greatest tyranny of modern history.

[Doc_Piptorious]

2001 from a musical taste perspective

1692 from a woman's rights perspective

You could also just as easily swapped that for Human or Gay

[spud_gun]

Only thing that did for me was have me wonder what year do they think it is in Riyadh.

2001 from a musical taste perspective

1692 from a woman's rights perspective