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Must be a great feeling to know you are the best player on the park everytime you go out onto the pitch, I get it everytime I play Fifa, I am sure its not as good as that but I bet its some feelingOriginally posted by Mostar View PostStevie vs City compilation
Steven Gerrard Vs Manchester City (Away) - Carling Cup - 11.03.2012 By N7Hristov - YouTube
Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
#****CITY
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All of this business about us not playing to suit him is fine. But good players can fit into any style of play given the right coaching. So I dont buy its simply not just us playing to his strengths.
We brought him because he can bring people into play, hes not really doing that at the moment. We brought him because he could score goals, hes not been doing that all season. We also brought him to compliment Suarez. Remember when everyone was drooling at the thought of them playing together?
I still think he is a decent player, and an excellent plan B. But that's all Im afraid. We dont need another confidence player, because we will forever be trying to build him up. Its hard to constantly defend him to opposition fans who want to knock him. Fact is, he is a striker not scoring goals.
Please prove me wrong Andy.*Except Michael, who died.
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Hes a VERY good player is Suarez but for an attacking player he doesnt score enough goals and is far too selfishOriginally posted by Alex View PostIll let him off as he has been our best player this season. As long as you contribute your fine by me.
So whilst I do marvel at his skills I do despair at his end product more often than notBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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I think we'll see more goals from him in the future. He's been fairly unlucky with hitting the woodwork this season. In a similar way to Van Persie, I think he'll discover his shooting boots and start smashing them in.Originally posted by Lecter View PostHes a VERY good player is Suarez but for an attacking player he doesnt score enough goals and is far too selfish
So whilst I do marvel at his skills I do despair at his end product more often than not
But he's not an out and out striker anyway. He's more of a number 10. Perhaps his end product is affected because of the team mates around him. He's put several chances on a plate for Carroll who has duly missed them. If he had Gerrard and a good finisher in the same team I'm sure he would be less selfish. Players like Suarez flourish when surrounded by other great players.K ris90210
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James Lawton: Dalglish needs to cut his loses on £35m misfit Carroll
Andy Carroll has failed to live up to his £35m price-tag since his move to Liverpool last year
The timeless advice of Kenny Rogers may have haunted many down the years but few can have felt its sharpest edge more than Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish over the last few months.
"Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em," warbled the old country singer in 'The Gambler' but Dalglish continues to present a deaf ear. And all the time Andy Carroll looks a little more like a definition of football inflation.
Even against Manchester City's fragile young central defender Stefan Savic, who at one point looked as if he might be heading towards something close to a nervous breakdown, the £35m Carroll -- the second most expensive signing, after Fernando Torres, in the history of the English game -- this week remained rooted in nightmare.
He retains the public backing of Dalglish but there is a growing feeling that the Anfield boss is not so much providing support but adding another millstone.
Every time Dalglish declares that the Carroll crisis is a figment of the media's overheated imagination, the more the pressure builds.
PROFIT
Why doesn't Dalglish take the chance to off-load Carroll amid reports that the player's old club Newcastle may be willing to get out the fatted calf and welcome home the prodigal son, albeit with a profit margin of somewhere north of £20m?
It is beginning to look suspiciously close to the intransigence which has marked the Liverpool manager's controversial reaction to the Luis Suarez affair.
Sorry appears to be the hardest word, along with the admission "we may have got it wrong". The mega-lurch for Carroll continues to lack a wisp of redemption.
Indeed, this week the celebrated BBC panel, led by former Liverpool giant Alan Hansen and including the relentless striker Alan Shearer, found itself discussing not so much Carroll's failure to make himself an integral part of the Liverpool first team but question marks against his basic fitness.
If old pros wonder whether a £35m player is meeting basic standards of Premier League football, the debate is plainly heading for perilous country -- especially against a background of chronic indiscipline during his Newcastle days.
Then, though, the controversies which crowded around his private life were regularly balanced by evidence that here surely was the raw material of a major figure in the game, a huge physical presence, at times terrifying in the air, with some too easily discountable shooting skills.
Such an assessment has been made to look more than misguided over the last 12 months which have been irrigated by nothing more than a trickle of four goals.
This week any attempt to elevate the challenge of Carroll into more than an increasingly fraught fight for survival in the top flight could only have been described as bizarre.
Indeed, it was a time to assess quite bleakly the extent of Carroll's fall. He did get around the over-wrought Savic and found himself one-on-one with the formidably athletic Joe Hart.
The old Carroll, the who one might just have provoked a huge gamble in the transfer market, would have been odds-on to have left the ball -- and perhaps the goalkeeper -- in the back of the net.
On this occasion Hart saved in reasonable comfort and, as it emerged quickly enough, ended the threat of Carroll for another hard night on the proving ground of big-time football.
The enduring complaint about Carroll is that he remains insufficiently focused on what, at 23, is clearly the formative challenge of his professional career.
Some time before Liverpool made their move armed with the £50m Chelsea splashed on the now equally careworn Torres, Ian St John -- one of the great strikers in the Anfield club's history -- saw the city which he had conquered back in the Sixties as a possible point of salvation for the big man from Tyneside.
"Probably the best thing that could happen to the kid," said St John as fresh headlines spoke of the player's chaotic private life, "is that he moved to somewhere new, a place like London, or maybe even here in Merseyside.
"In Newcastle, he is such a big figure that he may have persuaded himself that he can do no wrong.
"Here in Liverpool, he would never be the local hero -- just another guy who had to walk in the footsteps of people like Ian Rush and Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen. He needs to get out of the goldfish bowl."
It seemed like a persuasive theory at the time but the trouble is that Liverpool has proved only a slightly bigger goldfish bowl.
Fowler had his problems going about the city at the hours of recreation, but he also had behind him implicit tribal loyalty and was without the burden of a price tag which became a little more grotesque every time he went out on the field.
HAUNTED
Now it appears that the pony-tailed giant who relishes a good time -- and a pint or three -- has become a somewhat haunted figure with a new requirement to find a hiding place.
Perhaps the most withering verdict on Carroll thus far was provided by England coach Fabio Capello.
He was asked for his reaction on Carroll's still-born international career, one which went into instant reverse after Capello's first close-up contact with the young player who had so impressed him with his ability in the air and his raw power.
"It is not a question for me," snapped Capello. "You have to ask Andy Carroll. He is the one who must decide how much he want to play for England and, if he does, understand how much work he still has to do."
From Dalglish there has yet to come such a declaration. Instead, he suggests that Carroll is merely experiencing some passing difficulties.
He is, as they say, a work in progress. But at what point does the process become too extended, too self-defeating?
It is a question that loomed a little larger this week, one which in the end might well prove for Dalglish even more embarrassing than the Suarez affair.
The trouble is that the card he holds so doggedly has for some time looked like a £35m joker.What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins
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F*** off!!!
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Oh **** off, know when to hold em my arse! Think of all the players that have started slowly at a club, had a bad season or more and then come good, Kenny is the one with first hand knowledege of what AC is all about, so he's the one best placed to decide if he has a future at LFC, not some over dramatic stirring journo ****.
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Originally posted by Vermilion View PostOh **** off, know when to hold em my arse! Think of all the players that have started slowly at a club, had a bad season or more and then come good, Kenny is the one with first hand knowledege of what AC is all about, so he's the one best placed to decide if he has a future at LFC, not some over dramatic stirring journo ****.
Lucas is a classic example of this.
I guess it's just the fee that makes Carroll an easy target.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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You could argue that Carroll has been fairly unlucky as well as hes hit the woodwork countless times alsoOriginally posted by kris90210 View PostI think we'll see more goals from him in the future. He's been fairly unlucky with hitting the woodwork this season. In a similar way to Van Persie, I think he'll discover his shooting boots and start smashing them in.
But he's not an out and out striker anyway. He's more of a number 10. Perhaps his end product is affected because of the team mates around him. He's put several chances on a plate for Carroll who has duly missed them. If he had Gerrard and a good finisher in the same team I'm sure he would be less selfish. Players like Suarez flourish when surrounded by other great players.
We shall see about Suarez being less selfish
I have my doubts mind, its ingrained in him imoBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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aye, as did many other strikers.Originally posted by The_weatherman View PostDidn't RVP also start fairly slow?
Talking of ditching him already are just daft, and certainly not in the Jan transfer window - we need another striker IMO and to move him on would mean we'd need another 2 to come in.
If we were to move people on in this window to free up squad space/wages I'd look at players like Dirk , he's offered almost nothing this season and he just looks shot to me. Been a great servent but would be a handy make-weight in any deals we'd be looking to make.
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