Stewart Downing - West Hahahaham player

[destinydude]

Just so you know, pretty much no deal is ever done just straight cash, from what I believe Carroll is an exception to the rule. If we let Downing and Carroll go this summer do we not come out of this looking really embarrassed?

Just so you know, I do know that no deal is ever done in straight cash but there are cubs who can take him at 8m spread over 12 or 24 months even without the extra appearance/goals addons.

[Daniel 7]

The Andy Carroll deal was. Also, pretty much every NUFC deal in the last two seasons are cash up front.

[red g]

Kenny has a hugely patchy career record in the transfer market.

So does Comolli

[peekay]

So does Comolli

It goes even beyond that

Downing - £20 m
Carroll £35 m
Henderson - £15 m
Aquilani - £20 m
Keane - £20 m

Add to that Konchesky, Cole, Poulsen, Jovanovic - All on high wages.

Has there been any other club on the planet who has thrown away money like ours since 2009

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Just so you know, I do know that no deal is ever done in straight cash but there are cubs who can take him at 8m spread over 12 or 24 months even without the extra appearance/goals addons.

Are there? Who is your source? Everything being quoted has mentioned loan deals only so far.. Do tell.

[Muddled]

EDIT: Daft statement.

[~LFCHistory~]

It goes even beyond that

Downing - £20 m
Carroll £35 m
Henderson - £15 m
Aquilani - £20 m
Keane - £20 m

Add to that Konchesky, Cole, Poulsen, Jovanovic - All on high wages.

Has there been any other club on the planet who has thrown away money like ours since 2009

We've been dreadful in the transfer market for a long, long time now, well before 2009. I'd go so far as to say from the day Souness was appointed manager we've generally been awful in the transfer market. For anyone interested here's a list of every player we've signed and sold since 1992 :

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/liverpool-transfers.html

Makes grim reading really, for example when you look at that list there was a period from 1992 to 1999 when we arguably didn't make a single sensible signing (Hyypia marked the end of that cycle).
Rafa was no doubt an improvement on the other managers we've had since 1991 and he made some cracking signings but he also wasted a lot of money too on players who were either awful or bang average.
I just hope FSG and Rodgers have looked at lists like the one I've posted and have learnt from previous mistakes. The signing of Borini is a good first step and the names we're being linked to are generally the right kind of player with the exception of Dempsey.

[peekay]

We've been dreadful in the transfer market for a long, long time now, well before 2009. I'd go so far as to say from the day Souness was appointed manager we've generally been awful in the transfer market. For anyone interested here's a list of every player we've signed and sold since 1992 :

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/liverpool-transfers.html

Makes grim reading really, for example when you look at that list there was a period from 1992 to 1999 when we arguably didn't make a single sensible signing (Hyypia marked the end of that cycle).
Rafa was no doubt an improvement on the other managers we've had since 1991 and he made some cracking signings but he also wasted a lot of money too on players who were either awful or bang average.
I just hope FSG and Rodgers have looked at lists like the one I've posted and have learnt from previous mistakes. The signing of Borini is a good first step and the names we're being linked to are generally the right kind of player with the exception of Dempsey.

Staggering isnt it

Becoming a professional scout for LFC must be the easiest job in the world. That list makes me question the word professional in professional scout.

The success rate especially among attacking players is so bad, so poor that I am sure a bunch of est1892 posters will do better given the same resources.

[~LFCHistory~]

Staggering isnt it

Becoming a professional scout for LFC must be the easiest job in the world. That list makes me question the word professional in professional scout.

The success rate especially among attacking players is so bad, so poor that I am sure a bunch of est1892 posters will do better given the same resources.

Our scouts may have been awful but no one forced the manangers to buy those players did they ?? All of our managers since 1991 apart from Hodgson have as far as I know had the final say on players bought and sold. All we really need is a manager who is a good judge of a player and has a clear idea of what he wants in terms of style of play, age etc., whether Rodgers is that manager I honestly don't know, it's too early to say.

[Daniel 7]

Staggering isnt it

Becoming a professional scout for LFC must be the easiest job in the world. That list makes me question the word professional in professional scout.

The success rate especially among attacking players is so bad, so poor that I am sure a bunch of est1892 posters will do better given the same resources.

Get Mostar in

[Cormack74]

I'd hazard a guess that there might be a number of mid table teams interested in buying him if his wages weren't so high.

[brightred]

I really do wonder why Kenny bought him. I've seen him play against us four times in the past and every time he was average at best.

I know Kenny is a legend but if I'm a better judge of a player than him then we were always ****ed with downing.

[red g]

I really do wonder why Kenny bought him. I've seen him play against us four times in the past and every time he was average at best.

I know Kenny is a legend but if I'm a better judge of a player than him then we were always ****ed with downing.

We bought from watching MOTD. Adams, Drowning and Carroll while they are no PFK they certainly are not good enough to be Liverpool players imo.

[dom9]

According to some ITK's on twitter (not sure how reliable they are), couple of clubs are interested in taking him on loan.

I am guessing we will face this issue quite a bit ever since the genius that is Purslow decided to loan out Aquilani to preserve his value. Every club will be trying to take out cast offs as loans rather than purchasing them outright.

No problems here though. Downing does not have any value.

[Shanks]

I really do wonder why Kenny bought him..

I think Comolli bought Downing, Carroll, and Henderson..
Dalglish just agreed..