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    Thing is, a lot of people in here see players as individuals, which is unfair. I think Allen has the potential to do well in that team.
    Are we winning?

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      Originally posted by baitman View Post
      we can take the burden of blame off allen by sharing it out with henderson then
      Sad to say but its true that two young players aged 23 are used as scapegoats by their own fans.

      We need to back these lads they both have a lot of potential.

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        Originally posted by Nigey View Post
        Thing is, a lot of people in here see players as individuals, which is unfair. I think Allen has the potential to do well in that team.
        Good point, we can see that Rodgers is building a team, every interview from him and our players refers to the group.

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          Originally posted by Nigey View Post
          Thing is, a lot of people in here see players as individuals, which is unfair. I think Allen has the potential to do well in that team.
          The thing is Nigey. People see/think what they want. Regardless of the truth/reality. One thing, Allen is definitely a team player. But the aforementioned ( not you) will never be able to see that

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            I still think he can be a very good player for us.

            Showed when he signed what he is capable of just injuries and patchy form have been a problem.

            Of course we could always swap him for Diame who had a good game against us once.

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              Originally posted by Chazza View Post
              I still think he can be a very good player for us.

              Showed when he signed what he is capable of just injuries and patchy form have been a problem.

              Of course we could always swap him for Diame who had a good game against us once.

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                Sitter aside, I thought he had a good game and we badly missed him when he left the pitch.

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                  Originally posted by Cormack74 View Post
                  Never rated him but (apart from the miss) I didn't think he was especially dreadful today.
                  Cant say I noticed that he was playing until that miss

                  He brings a whole new meaning to anonymous
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                    Yeah maybe anonymous is the right word but I suppose an anonymous game is better than a **** one (well marginally).

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                      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                      Cant say I noticed that he was playing until that miss

                      He brings a whole new meaning to anonymous
                      Really? You must be doing other things while watching football then.
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                        Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                        It was an awful miss but he didn't have as bad a game. Thought we started to lose control of the midfield when he went off.
                        Same here.

                        He should have put that away but in terms of performance he was ok.

                        Needs more games to get in game shape but it will be interesting to see if awful miss affected his confidence.
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                          Originally posted by Nigey View Post
                          Really? You must be doing other things while watching football then.
                          I'm clearly not all-seeing and all-knowing like you
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                            i dont really understand why allen is operating as the furthest forward of our midfield 3. For me thats a more defensive than offensive move designed to win the ball back quickly once we've lost it. so in one way it allows us to keep the ball in the oppositions final third, but it renders him almost useless once we have it.

                            he's not going to get you many goals or assists. Even assists to the assist but he didnt have a bad game overall.

                            i think we will see the best of Joe Allen once gerrard is no longer an automatic first choice as he seems to be scared to play him game when stevie's with him. same for henderson. they will only fulfill their potential once gerrard is off the scene imo.
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                              Originally posted by el matador View Post
                              i dont really understand why allen is operating as the furthest forward of our midfield 3. For me thats a more defensive than offensive move designed to win the ball back quickly once we've lost it. so in one way it allows us to keep the ball in the oppositions final third, but it renders him almost useless once we have it.

                              he's not going to get you many goals or assists. Even assists to the assist but he didnt have a bad game overall.

                              I think we will see the best of Joe Allen once gerrard is no longer an automatic first choice as he seems to be scared to play him game when stevie's with him. same for henderson.. they will only fulfill their potential once gerrard is off the scene imo
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                                Originally posted by el matador View Post
                                i dont really understand why allen is operating as the furthest forward of our midfield 3. For me thats a more defensive than offensive move designed to win the ball back quickly once we've lost it. so in one way it allows us to keep the ball in the oppositions final third, but it renders him almost useless once we have it.

                                he's not going to get you many goals or assists. Even assists to the assist but he didnt have a bad game overall.

                                i think we will see the best of Joe Allen once gerrard is no longer an automatic first choice as he seems to be scared to play him game when stevie's with him. same for henderson. they will only fulfill their potential once gerrard is off the scene imo.
                                I think Henderson has progressed in the last 12 months I've not got too many worries about him long term

                                Allen on the other hand I struggle to see what he offers

                                He isnt a holding player as his defensive work is terrible. Rodgers himself suggested hes better further up the pitch

                                But to play the old Gerrard role you have to be contributing assists and goals and once again this is lacking enormously in Allens game

                                I suppose he could play the "Alonso role" but Xabi dictated play and did a lot of defensive work through clever positioning and he was also exceptional with his passing range - Allens isnt anywhere near that level

                                I honestly reckon hes a squad player who you bring on when you are a couple of goals up and want to slow down the game and close it out
                                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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