An open letter to Robbie keane

[ufc43]

Dear Robbie Keane,

We are sorry that we were unable to deliver this letter but everytime we contacted you you were either offside or not celebrating a goal. We also tried to give you this letter after 90 minutes but at the time you were unapproachable.

There is also a delivery cost on your original letter to the value of £8m or there abouts.

Wish you all the succes at delivering at your level.

Liverpool FC

And you are a Liverpool fan?

[FatTony]

Hmm, I wonder if it's unlike a newspaper to reduce a complicated and rather tedious story, the truth of which they probably don't actually know, into a simplistic, sensationalist tale where one protagonist is cast as the goodie and the other as the baddie. It seems even harder to believe a tabloid would act like that.

Not sure who wrote it as it came from a mate but Maddock (if it was him) is normally pretty good. If not then probably 99% BS, but then Rafa seems to have treated Pennant much the same. So maybe there are elements of truth, maybe there aren't, but the fact remains that none of us really have a clue so its only fair that we post the information we get and let everyone make up their own minds.

[Neil Young]

Not sure who wrote it as it came from a mate but Maddock (if it was him) is normally pretty good. If not then probably 99% BS, but then Rafa seems to have treated Pennant much the same. So c, but the fact remains that none of us really have a clue so its only fair that we post the information we get and let everyone make up their own minds.

Sure, there's no harm in posting it as long as we all remember the limitations of the source. That is all I was pointing out.

Maybe there are elements of truth, maybe there aren't.

It's good to keep an open mind and, as usual, the truth probably lies somewhere between the extreme positions.

[Scratch]

And you are a Liverpool fan?

Sounds like you're as much a Keane fan as you are a Liverpool fan.

Can you honestly say that you thought Keane brought anything to the team? He couldn't play as part of a 4-2-3-1 formation, a formation that seems to bring us most joy, as it didn't suit his game. To accomodate him, we had to play a 4-4-2, which as a team, we never looked comfortable doing.

Keane's sale was essential, as if it had been left any longer, his value would have decreased further and we'd have taken a bigger blow...moving back to Spurs was good for him, and for us.

[DannyMan2006]

From the Mirror:

Robbie Keane was last night forced out of Liverpool before completing an incredible return to Tottenham.

Keane, who only moved to Anfield for £20.3million in July, was determined to stay.

But boss Rafa Benitez bullied him into rejoining Spurs after warning he was prepared to let him rot in the reserves for the rest of the season. Republic of Ireland striker Keane, 28, even told Liverpool he only wanted to sign for Tottenham on loan until May.

But Benitez made it clear that the forward had no future on Merseyside while he was still manager.

The bitter breakdown left Keane with no choice and he returned to White Hart Lane for an initial £12m, rising to £15.5m.

If he wasn't going to play him, I'm glad he forced him out. What ****ing point would there have been in a loan?

Personally I'd have been alot happier with this situation had we brought someone in on loan, but as I'm one of the more vocal ones in asking Rafa to have faith in our younger players over squad fillers, I guess that would be hypocritical. Can't have it both ways.

We still have Torres and Gerrard as first choice pairing, and I'm happy that Babel and Kuyt can do a job. I' also confident in the ability of N'Gog and the likes of Nemeth and Pacheco in reserves. I don't think Keane wil be missed.

When Torres was missing it was not like it was Keane carrying us.

[Chrono]

And you are a Liverpool fan?

Yes. I prefer my strikers to score goals, not send them love letters after they fail on a spectacular level to deliver for my club.

I imagine you, as a proper Liverpool fan, would prefer him to prove a few more times that he is not at the level we need, at the expense of our title challenge.

[red g]

Yes. I prefer my strikers to score goals, not send them love letters after they fail on a spectacular level to deliver for my club.

I imagine you, as a proper Liverpool fan, would prefer him to prove a few more times that he is not at the level we need, at the expense of our title challenge.

[FatTony]

Sure, there's no harm in posting it as long as we all remember the limitations of the source. That is all I was pointing out.


It's good to keep an open mind and, as usual, the truth probably lies somewhere between the extreme positions.

I know, just wanted to point out that I didn't believe that this was necessarily accurate.

[red g]

One thing is for sure there seems to be a huge split in liverpool fans those who believe he was given a chance and those who dont. I am in the former

He could have been given longer but In this day and age just htink it was all going to end in tears

[kingfunk]

I dont think iv ever read so many idiotic comments on one thread, some people on here have lost the ability to take a step back and take an independant view of the going on`s at Anfield.
Our manager seems to be gathering a cult following, Rafa is not only a good manager, very smart but he also is A Master Manipulator and it seems to me that a lot of people are being blinded by rafa`s verbal beams of light!!

The support of the Manager and the Players should be of equal measures, as should the blame.

[red g]

I dont think iv ever read so many idiotic comments on one thread, some people on here have lost the ability to take a step back and take an independant view of the going on`s at Anfield.
Our manager seems to be gathering a cult following, Rafa is not only a good manager, very smart but he also is A Master Manipulator and it seems to me that a lot of people are being blinded by rafa`s verbal beams of light!!

The support of the Manager and the Players should be of equal measures, as should the blame.

But i also think on the other hand to many people want to blame Rafa no matter what. I think both parties are to blame....but one thing that is unequivocal is that he never delivered where it matters on the pitch.

[DannyMan2006]

One thing is for sure there seems to be a huge split in liverpool fans those who believe he was given a chance and those who dont. I am in the former

He could have been given longer but In this day and age just htink it was all going to end in tears

I am not of the opinion that he had such a great chance, but it could be argued he didn't deseve any better. I think most will point to Berbatov, he has been constantly played by Fergie and he is now starting to look the real deal. Barbatov did not deserve to be on the pitch most of the time and has offered very little at times, but Fergie had confidence in him and it's only now paying off - at the business end of the season where it counts.

Rafa obviously did not have faith in his signing and saw little in training to suggest he was worth sticking with.

[Neil Young]

I dont think iv ever read so many idiotic comments on one thread, some people on here have lost the ability to take a step back and take an independant view of the going on`s at Anfield.
Our manager seems to be gathering a cult following, Rafa is not only a good manager, very smart but he also is A Master Manipulator and it seems to me that a lot of people are being blinded by rafa`s verbal beams of light!!

The support of the Manager and the Players should be of equal measures, as should the blame.

So you're suggesting anyone who doesn't agree with you is blind, hmm?

[kingfunk]

So you're suggesting anyone who doesn't agree with you is blind, hmm?

Wheres that then?

[Craig_H]

You are allowed to think whatever you want. The rhetorical device of lumping people together however accurate does not encourage discussion of any specific point under discussion. Therefore using well know labels that annoy people and do nothing but divert from discussion is frowned upon and people were asked to stop.

The discussion we don't want to have is one where all that happens is one set of people calls the other RCDNW, they call those who do it RCNDNR or some such bollocks and ignore all worthwhile points made. It has happened here too often in the past, so now we are attempting to pro actively prevent that. If you really want to have this discussion in full then we can move it to the sin bin but I'm not likely to be available much today so you may be in there a long while.

Now you've phrased it in that way, it actually makes sense and i can see where you're coming from.