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    Originally posted by Mostar View Post
    To me if he didn't report anything initially it would mean that there was no good reason to do so and any subsequent changes to his initial statement would bring in some doubts about his integrity.
    I've already made that point.

    I would view more information as additions rather than changes. If the ref said in his report that Suarez said nothing racist, but later said Suarez did say something racist, then that would be a change. If however the ref left things out of his report, but later mentioned them in the investigation, then they would be additions, and puts us in the position of the panel deciding if those things said merit further action rather than the ref. I don't know if the ref is bound by any rules of disclosure when writing his initial report, along the lines of: "Well, I heard Suarez say < insert phrase here>, and that could be construed as offensive in some circles, but in the context I think no harm was intended, thus I deem no further action is neccessary"

    The snippet about Evra accusing the ref of "only booking him because he is black" is a new one on me, and I presume it came from the ref in the course of the investigation and was not intially in his report.

    The whole point is though, if Suarez has said something that can be construed as offensive, he doesn't know with any certainty that Evra is the only one that heard it; in front of 40,000+ people, countless cameras and mics, we would have to do our own exaustive investigation to make sure there was no evidence before he could put forward his denial. And with tens of thousands of busy-body mancs scouring every frame of tv video and audio and **** knows what cunt's mobile phone footage, it would be an extremely nervous wait. Just look at the Terry incident with supposed new fresh evidence winging its way to the CPS. Who the **** knows what could crop up?

    If it was just two fellas in a room with nobody about it would be simple.

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      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      If I was found to be using racist language at work, my employment would be terminated. Obviously its a little different in football, because the players are saleable assets. But to dismiss it like that is a bit wrong.
      But YOUR employer would carry out the disciplinary investigation. They are the ones saying you have behaved unacceptably. If LFC believe Suarez to be innocent they will not sack him for it.
      Football without Origi is nothing

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        Originally posted by BootRoom View Post

        The snippet about Evra accusing the ref of "only booking him because he is black" is a new one on me, and I presume it came from the ref in the course of the investigation and was not intially in his report.
        This to me is absolutely critical. IF this is true. Evra is done for. He will be getting a 6 game ban. The important thing of course is the accuracy and source.

        If this allegation was in the referees report on its way to FA HQ Evra was due to a charge - then he goes blabbing to French TV and its on the back burner while everything is investigated.

        Furthermore, if he has then said "dont touch me south american" then the FA have no option but to ban him.

        The FA simply don't have enough cash to risk the lawsuit that will come if Suarez is banned and Evra isn't.
        Football without Origi is nothing

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          Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
          This to me is absolutely critical. IF this is true. Evra is done for. He will be getting a 6 game ban. The important thing of course is the accuracy and source.

          If this allegation was in the referees report on its way to FA HQ Evra was due to a charge - then he goes blabbing to French TV and its on the back burner while everything is investigated.

          Furthermore, if he has then said "dont touch me south american" then the FA have no option but to ban him.

          The FA simply don't have enough cash to risk the lawsuit that will come if Suarez is banned and Evra isn't.
          Those claims definitely need to be followed up; we’d be ****ing fools to let them go.

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            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
            Going to make myself very unpopular but it's hard to argue with that.
            Originally posted by GEOFFAR2002 View Post
            Yeah, no matter in what context he said it or what it means elsewhere in the world, its playing with fire by saying it.


            There are a couple of positives I see, if the worst case happens.

            1. We have to buy a striker
            2. We have to play Carroll. It will now be a pivtol moment in his career.
            3. We have to learn to play without our new tailsman

            Not Great but..I'm just saying

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              Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
              This to me is absolutely critical. IF this is true. Evra is done for. He will be getting a 6 game ban. The important thing of course is the accuracy and source.

              If this allegation was in the referees report on its way to FA HQ Evra was due to a charge - then he goes blabbing to French TV and its on the back burner while everything is investigated.

              Furthermore, if he has then said "dont touch me south american" then the FA have no option but to ban him.

              The FA simply don't have enough cash to risk the lawsuit that will come if Suarez is banned and Evra isn't.
              Can they ban Evra? He's not the one on trial.
              That rug really tied the room together.

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                Are we sure there will be a ruling today?

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                  Originally posted by MrNice View Post
                  Porque Negro? does that mean "because I am Black?" if it does thats a genius thing to say to Evra ....lol
                  Porque is both "Why" and "Because"
                  "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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                    He will (should - if the FA have any integrity) be charged on conclusion of this investigation. Similar to how they are waiting for the Met to finish investigating Terry before they charge him.
                    Football without Origi is nothing

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                      Originally posted by Liverpel View Post
                      Can they ban Evra? He's not the one on trial.
                      Evidence obtained during the course of the investigation should form the basis of new charges.

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                        Originally posted by Liverpel View Post
                        Can they ban Evra? He's not the one on trial.
                        He's not the one on trial here, but surely if it's accepted that these comments are true then you would imagine there should be charges for Evra to answer.
                        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                          He's not the one on trial here, but surely if it's accepted that these comments are true then you would imagine there should be charges for Evra to answer.
                          Your sig

                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, it's racism, if you can't top it, it's racism, if you can't laugh at it, it's racism, and it's not deserved, sob sob. (Patrice Evra)

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                            Originally posted by BillobShaisley View Post
                            Porque is both "Why" and "Because"
                            Actually its slightly different to that.

                            Porque = Because

                            Por qué = Why

                            Porque soy negro = because I am black
                            Porque es negro = because you are black

                            I think.
                            "With Ron Yeats in defence, we could play Arthur Askey in goal."

                            Bill Shankly

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                              if he is going to get banned, at least there are 3 non league games in january. i realize those are our only chances for silverware this season but personally i'm more worried about champion's league.
                              dave of mutilation

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                                Verdict at 16:30 according to Twitterdom

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