Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[elrichio86]

As its such a complicated case, which ever side loses is likely to appeal anyway.

[BillobShaisley]

The cultural norm is that you don't refer to a person's race when you are arguing with them, so it shouldn't really be an issue.

It's a bunch of limp wristed, white, guardian readers that have decided on the behalf of the 'poor incapable immigrants' (Passive, non self-aware racism) that the simple use of basic descriptive terms is somehow insulting. Said ******s came up with the terms 'people of colour' etc in their misguided attempts and placating their own inherited guilt from decades and centuries previously.

Refering to someones colour is not racist in and of itself. Only if specific insulting and derogatory terms are used, such as N---er as opposed to the simple negro. Other nations with a longer and deeper history of multi-culturalism have already evolved past this state and now worry about whether you call someone a cunt or not rather than any simple descriptive terms.

[ChesterDave]

As its such a complicated case, which ever side loses is likely to appeal anyway.

I would imagine that a not guilty verdict would not allow Utd/Evra the option of appealing.

[BillobShaisley]

There is a severe cultural misunderstanding here, you cannot blame people in the UK for not getting this, unless they have lived in S America or have a lot of S American friends. As this case has moved along I have just become more and more convinced of Suarez innocence and really there needs to be some major clearing of his name.

I find it hard to beleive that Evra did not know this was not racist, but I will leave the door open that perhaps he did not.

That it would seem would be the easiest way out for the FA, cultural misunderstanding.

No, people who don't know the difference between "Negro" and "Nig*er" should stfu and keep their ill-informed, half-baked opinions to themselves while the grown ups sort things out.

[RedSince1964]

No, people who don't know the difference between "Negro" and "Nig*er" should stfu and keep their ill-informed, half-baked opinions to themselves while the grown ups sort things out. :handshake:

Never a truer word/sentence spoken

[Le Chef]

The clubs will be informed today from what I've read - It makes sense for them to know before anyone else and reasoning behind the decision.

[Le Chef]

I would imagine that a not guilty verdict would not allow Utd/Evra the option of appealing.

I doubt it - He hasn't been charged with anything

[Mattshark]

I would imagine that a not guilty verdict would not allow Utd/Evra the option of appealing.

Aye, you can't appeal a not guilty verdict, otherwise it would lead to never ending trials and would be ridiculous.

[little dave hedgehog]

:awaits arrival of limpwristed guardian reader:

anyone seen neil?

[Exiled_red]

The clubs will be informed today from what I've read - It makes sense for them to know before anyone else and reasoning behind the decision.

If this is the case are the clubs not allowed to comment on the decision, that seems a little odd.

[Roboklopp]

It's a bunch of limp wristed, white, guardian readers that have decided on the behalf of the 'poor incapable immigrants' (Passive, non self-aware racism) that the simple use of basic descriptive terms is somehow insulting. Said ******s came up with the terms 'people of colour' etc in their misguided attempts and placating their own inherited guilt from decades and centuries previously.

Refering to someones colour is not racist in and of itself. Only if specific insulting and derogatory terms are used, such as N---er as opposed to the simple negro. Other nations with a longer and deeper history of multi-culturalism have already evolved past this state and now worry about whether you call someone a cunt or not rather than any simple descriptive terms.

Erm, isn't the Graun one of the papers not condemning Suarez outright already?

[Red_Polo]

Yeah, drawing The Guardian and/or it's readers on this sounds like an incredibly lazy presumption to me. From what I remember it was the Guardian that first brought the potential nuances of this case to light with any prominence, and the paper rightly continues to raise them without making judgement either way.

[serenejim]

As a Guardian reader of 40 years I can say unequivocally that I do not have a linp wrist.Given my age other parts may be slightly limp but definitely not my wrist.For the record the Guardian is the only wholly Independent national daily.It is owned by the Scott trust and not some millionaire **** with an axe to grind-i.e.every other paper and consequently is the most unbiased national daily of them all.You are shooting at the wrong target. Here endeth the lesson

[serenejim]

P.S. My girlfriends daughter works for the club and knows the outcome of the hearing but she is not telling

[Craig_H]

P.S. My girlfriends daughter works for the club and knows the outcome of the hearing but she is not telling

How the ****ing **** can a Liverpool fan have what is effectively their stepdaughter who knows the outcome and not get it out of her?