Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Mostar]

Today's training session

[Neil Young]

Not just any old scum, they are subhuman scum!!

[Richey]Tube drivers?[/Richey]

[Lecter]

Taylor is an absolute snake, one of the biggest rats in the game. The sooner people like him are gone from English football the better it will be.

Taylor is an out and out cretin

I’ve probably told this story before, but in case you haven’t heard it I’ll repeat it

My family know a former member of Forests’ coaching staff and we often use to get told stories of Clough’s antics

One story involved Gordan Taylor

Clough had a problem with a player and the PFA asked if they could arrange a meeting to mediate, Clough refused

So before one game Taylor appears outside the dressing room and demands to speak with Clough. Word comes in that he’s outside and Clough sent the coaching staff member outside to intercept him. He tells him to stand next to Taylor and ensure the dressing room door is wide open and call through that hes near Taylor. So the coaching staff member goes and does this, when hes ready he shouts “Ok Brian I’m with him”

To which Cloughie shouts from the dressing room “Good now tell that Poison Dwarf to **** off!!”

[TheElephantMan]

Although we generally *hate* Man United in all fairness - unless someone can correct me none of the other United players have come out in support of Evra?

[Lecter]

Gordon Taylor is just one example of the old boys club, dinosaurs in suits whose sole objective is to keep the status quo as it is, keep their own positions secure and milk the game for as much personal profit as possible.

Utter cunt of a man.

Like spending hundreds of thousands of ££££ on a Lowry painting for his office

[john316]

Although we generally *hate* Man United in all fairness - unless someone can correct me none of the other United players have come out in support of Evra?

Even Mr Ferguson wasn't exactly enthusiastic in his support for Evra initially.

[Suarez]

whats with the "Mr Ferguson" bollocks?

[Norbs]

This Sky poll thing. A bit sad?

It seems to have become so important all of a sudden. But it's just a poll on Sky. A bit sad?

What's sad is that the winner should be Silva

[Jack D Rips]

How about this for a fudge?



chris_kammyChris Kamara




All sorted as we recorded crimbo day show, we announced winner at 12 and the winner when the poll got stopped, hope that's the end of it

[john316]

whats with the "Mr Ferguson" bollocks?

Take it you never found Rafa's use of it funny then!

[Mostar]

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/12/23/ian-doyle-no-one-in-luis-suarez-race-row-will-come-out-in-a-positive-light-92534-30000786/

Ian Doyle: No one in Luis Suarez race row will come out in a positive light

IT’S the contradiction that strikes to the heart of the Luis Suarez controversy.

How can a player stated by a regulatory commission as not being racist then be found guilty of being racist?

Such is the complex and difficult case that sees the Liverpool FC striker now facing an eight-match ban and the onerous task of removing a significant stain on his character.

But the growing realisation is nobody will come out of this situation in a positive light.

Not Suarez. Not Liverpool. Not Patrice Evra. And not the Football Association.

Let’s get one thing straight. Similar to any form of prejudice or discrimination, racism has no place in society, let alone football.

If Suarez was indeed guilty, then he deserves to be punished; in much the same way John Terry should be censured if also found to have racially abused an opponent.

But it’s that disclaimer right there. If. An element of doubt persists surrounding the Suarez case and, with the player’s lack of apology indicating he believes he is innocent of the charge, it will persist until the FA release their full details of the hearing.

Not least because, if Liverpool’s claims are verified, the FA’s opening remarks admitted Suarez was not racist, a belief also shared by Evra.

So to then slap the Uruguayan with such a huge ban and, by association, taint him for arguably the remainder of his career is at best inconsistent, at worst hypocritical.

And by taking so long to deliver an ultimately confusing judgement, the FA have, rather than dealing with the matter clearly and concisely, instead allowed it to mushroom out of control.

Seizing on this, Liverpool’s response and subsequent stance couldn’t have been more hard-hitting.

But while their intentions are honourable, the manner in which they have thus far been enacted is perhaps less so.

Kenny Dalglish has ensured the club closes ranks around Suarez, building a siege mentality that, not for the first time, pits Liverpool as outsiders against the authorities. It’s something on which the city thrives, and which served Manchester United well during the early Sir Alex Ferguson era.

Solidarity has its place, and the raucous backing from the away fans at Wigan Athletic on Wednesday night was impressive.

But the sight of Liverpool’s players warming up with special Suarez t-shirts was teetering close to the brink of the tacky, crass show of support that has infamously befallen some of their rivals in the past.

An appeal would most likely be futile – indeed, there’s a school of thought Liverpool should have started the ban in midweek to ensure Suarez returns for the second leg of the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester City – but this is more about clearing the player’s name than his availability in the short-term.

With the FA’s reluctance to go public allowing speculation to build, it would appear the case centres on a Spanish phrase that Suarez insists does not hold any racist connotations back in Uruguay.

But, as Wigan manager Roberto Martinez revealed in midweek, coming to England is a culture shock for many foreigners.

What’s acceptable in their homeland may not be here, even when spoken in his mother tongue, and while Liverpool could have done more to educate Suarez of this fact, the FA should have also taken it into consideration.

Small wonder the bemusement back in South America at the lengthy ban.

Of course, Suarez is no saint. But then neither is Evra and, given his previous, it’s no surprise Liverpool have questioned the Frenchman’s credibility. You wonder how, with a seeming lack of hard evidence, the FA have favoured Evra’s word against, well, anyone’s.

And will the FA react to the United defender’s admission of abusing Suarez? Realistically, the answer to that will be no, unless there were racist comments. Otherwise, almost every Premier League player will be on a charge by the end of the month.

The danger is the controversy will shift from being a racism issue to one of Liverpool against United and the FA.

And Suarez, football – and more importantly, the truth – deserves better than that.

[Suarez]

Take it you never found Rafa's use of it funny then!

It was funny when he said it, as you know he was making a point in not calling him Sir like everyone else, but I don't think Fergie is reading Est

[john316]

Its just stuck with me ever since when ever I talk about him

[Roboklopp]

Don't see why showing support with tshirts was crass tbh, but in general he speaks sense.

[Darth Marty]

I read on twitter (I know, I know) but it was from someone in Sky saying that yes the poll didnt stop at midnight but that all votes would count. So basically Suarez didnt win.

I dont really care but with all that has gone on this week it just seems

so unfair!

****ers