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    #2926
    If Suarez had never mentioned using the word Negrito, I don't believe the FA would have brought this charge.

    He should have gone to the hearing and not mentioned anything and then said to the FA, you prove to me that I'm racist. You prove to me that I said something offensive..

    There is no way this would have gone on for as long as it has and I don't believe we would be in this situation now..

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      #2927
      I have a feeling if the police press charges against terry, the FA will do FA about him saying its a police matter only.
      It's a prediction thread on a wish list.

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        #2928
        Originally posted by Shanks View Post
        If Suarez had never mentioned using the word Negrito, I don't believe the FA would have brought this charge.

        He should have gone to the hearing and not mentioned anything and then said to the FA, you prove to me that I'm racist. You prove to me that I said something offensive..

        There is no way this would have gone on for as long as it has and I don't believe we would be in this situation now..
        Agreed, his honesty has cost him.
        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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          #2929
          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
          Remember when Ian Wright accused Schmeichel of racially abusing him? FA did **** all.
          If thats not a precedent to get this over-turned i dont know what is....

          but then again it was fergie's player and we all know he works by a different set of rules.

          The only thing suarez admitted to was saying the word "negrito", that in itself does not constitute racism. Especially as that term is common and un-offensive in his native country. Absolutely no common sense! as usual! Just like the bull**** about appealing yellow/red cards and not being able to act on something not in an incompetent referee's report....

          Genius
          YNWA

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            #2930
            Originally posted by Shanks View Post
            If Suarez had never mentioned using the word Negrito, I don't believe the FA would have brought this charge.

            He should have gone to the hearing and not mentioned anything and then said to the FA, you prove to me that I'm racist. You prove to me that I said something offensive..

            There is no way this would have gone on for as long as it has and I don't believe we would be in this situation now..
            Nah, the club have already said the FA are choosing to take Evra's word over Luis', it'd have made no difference, the FA had decided what they'd do on the saturday Evra come forward.

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              #2931
              I've just read Taylor's and Ouseley's comments. It's cultural absolutism - pathetically one-eyed and lacking in self-awareness.

              As is the verdict, if what I've read about the evidence is correct.
              .
              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                #2932
                Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
                the negro/negrito thing. i'm sure the united negro college fund might have something to say about it.

                there's no question he said what he said. the hearing hinged on whether or not those words were offensive. might've been easier if he hadn't come right out and told everyone he had called him something, but as it is there's still plenty of room for appeal. we might still lose it, but it's not over yet and i think suarez has a case. will be interesting to see whether they charge evra given that he also admitted to "abusive" words in the other direction in his testimony. they were no better and no worse than what suarez said.

                allegedly.
                I have to admit my ingorance in the english language here, but when and why did negro become a racist term? I'm of course aware of the N-word, but I wasn't aware that negro carried that much weight, given it's so much used in other languages and literally means black. Is it ok to call a black man black or do you have to specify it like african-european or something like that?
                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                  #2933
                  Originally posted by Havors View Post
                  If thats not a precedent to get this over-turned i dont know what is....

                  but then again it was fergie's player and we all know he works by a different set of rules.

                  The only thing suarez admitted to was saying the word "negrito", that in itself does not constitute racism. Especially as that term is common and un-offensive in his native country. Absolutely no common sense! as usual! Just like the bull**** about appealing yellow/red cards and not being able to act on something not in an incompetent referee's report....

                  Genius
                  The rules differ somewhat between seasons so I think they don't have to be consistent across seasons, only during a season.
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    #2934
                    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                    I've just read Taylor's and Ouseley's comments. It's cultural absolutism - pathetically one-eyed and lacking in self-awareness.

                    As is the verdict, if what I've read about the evidence is correct.
                    "Cultural absolutism" - well put. How so many people can't see this is unreal.
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      #2935
                      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                      I've just read Taylor's and Ouseley's comments. It's cultural absolutism - pathetically one-eyed and lacking in self-awareness.

                      As is the verdict, if what I've read about the evidence is correct.
                      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                        #2936
                        He will be hounded out of english football just like one of our greatest managers was. **** the FA and **** england. Im finished with that **** national team.

                        Come on blatter make team GB happen for good!

                        Im through with football as well the only thing that maters to me now is LFC that is it. The rest of english football is dead too me now.

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                          #2937
                          I've just read the Tompkins article, I find it shocking that they don't consider any element of doubt in these cases, it seems incredibly knee-jerk reaction. A very black and white interpretation of the situation, after all that was mentioned about cultural differences and the nuances of language, all that seems to be ignored.

                          I think that all of us agree that there is no place for racism in football, but I feel than as much as the authorities and campaigns such as 'kick it out' and others have a duty to tackle racism I think that they also have a duty to ensure that such cases are handled correctly so that people aren't wrongly accused or punished, and in this respect I think that the situation has been handle abysmally. As a result Suarez is going to himself be subject to alot of vile abuse.
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                            #2938
                            Stick it to the FA and make Suarez player of the year. http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...Player-of-2011

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                              #2939
                              Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
                              Stick it to the FA and make Suarez player of the year. http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...Player-of-2011
                              Only at 65% of the total vote now

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                                #2940
                                Originally posted by Tee View Post
                                :handshake

                                We should all adopt that as our sigs.
                                The times they are a changin'.

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