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    The Club can confirm that they received the written reasons from the Regulatory Commission at short notice last night on the evening of the game against Newcastle United.

    The player, the Club and our legal advisors will now take the necessary amount of time to read, digest and properly consider the contents of the 115 page judgment and will make no further comment at present.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
      No he's not but he is the one defender we could use to do the job and not suffer as a result as he can't get in the team. Would rather Carra break the ****ers legs and get a suspension rather than Agger or Skrtel.


      Sounds like a plan to me mate.

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        Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
        Seven times or ten times, doesn't matter really. If the offending word was used seven times there must be some video evidence. I haven't read any of the report, getting ready to go out - I don't want to get wound up on New Years Eve!
        It doesn't matter how many times it was said. But the fact that he initially claims it was said 'at least 10 times' then says that he didn't literally mean at least 10 times, calls into question the reliability of his evidence, and it's slandering Suarez.
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          Cant find that Matt LAwson tweet but clearly the bell end hasnt read the report

          238. The footage was not of any real direct assistance in terms of what was said by Mr Suarez in the goalmouth.... However,
          the video footage did shed considerable light on the sequence of events and the way in
          which Mr Evra and Mr Suarez acted towards each other.

          So the video evidence against him is the video evidence we have all seen, just how the panel have interpreted it.
          Football without Origi is nothing

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            Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
            It doesn't matter how many times it was said. But the fact that he initially claims it was said 'at least 10 times' then says that he didn't literally mean at least 10 times, calls into question the reliability of his evidence, and it's slandering Suarez.
            I agree. I'm going to read the document myself tomorrow, but from the snippets being posted here and on FB I can't believe it's taken the FA all this time to produce such bull****! I really thought that they would make it as watertight as they could, but it seems to be absolute nonsense.

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              In English we also often say "10 times or more" when in fact it didn't happen. It's called bull****ting.

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                The Commission read all the witness statements (in their English version) and other
                documents, and watched video clips with which we were provided, in advance of the
                hearing. However, given the significant factual disputes which we were asked to resolve,
                we required Mr Evra and Mr Suarez to give oral evidence in chief on the central factual
                disputes as to what happened in the penalty area. Essentially, they were asked to describe
                in their own words what they recalled of the incidents, before being cross-examined. This
                assisted us in forming our view as to the credibility and reliability of their evidence.
                Are we winning?

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                  The way I'm reading this, Suarez was fed to the wolves. Evra had the club secretary there while Suarez was left to muddle along with a translator. He's been stitched up good and proper, this is only going to get worse when we appeal.

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                    Oh seriously just **** off

                    The referee spoke to both players. They listened and then walked away. As they did, Mr
                    Suarez put his hand on the back of Mr Evra's head. There are, of course, many ways of
                    touching an opposing player with the hand. Some are obvious attempts at conciliation
                    such as a handshake or sometimes a pat on the back. Others are intended to further
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                    aggravate the opposing player whilst, perhaps, being made to appear like an attempt at
                    conciliation. In our judgment, Mr Suarez placing his hand on the back of Mr Evra's head
                    fell into the latter category.
                    Football without Origi is nothing

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                      The meaning of Rules E3(1) and E3(2)
                      48.
                      The Rule pursuant to which Mr Suarez was charged is found in section E of the FA Rules
                      under the general heading "Conduct". Rule E1, with the sub-heading "Misconduct",
                      provides, so far as relevant:
                      "The Association may act against a Participant in respect of any "Misconduct", which
                      is defined as being a breach of the following:
                      ...
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                      (b) the Rules and regulations of The Association and in particular Rules E3 to 28
                      below;"
                      In the FA Rules, a Participant includes a player.
                      49.
                      Rule E3, with the sub-heading "General Behaviour", provides as follows:
                      "(1) A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not
                      act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use
                      any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening,
                      abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour.
                      (2)
                      In the event of any breach of Rule E3(1) including a reference to any one or
                      more of a person's ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, faith, gender, sexual
                      orientation or disability (an "aggravating factor"), a Regulatory Commission
                      shall consider the imposition of an increased sanction, taking into account the
                      following entry points:
                      For a first offence, a sanction that is double that which the Regulatory
                      Commission would have applied had the aggravating factor not been present.
                      For a second offence, a sanction that is treble that which the Regulatory
                      Commission would have applied had the aggravating factor not been present.
                      Any further such offence(s) shall give rise to consideration of a permanent
                      suspension.
                      These entry points are intended to guide the Regulatory Commission and are
                      not mandatory.
                      The Regulatory Commission shall have the discretion to impose a sanction
                      greater or less than the entry point, according to the aggravating or mitigating
                      factors present in each case."
                      Are we winning?

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                        The more I read it, the more it boils my piss.

                        I can't find the words.

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                          Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
                          Oh seriously just **** off

                          The referee spoke to both players. They listened and then walked away. As they did, Mr
                          Suarez put his hand on the back of Mr Evra's head. There are, of course, many ways of
                          touching an opposing player with the hand. Some are obvious attempts at conciliation
                          such as a handshake or sometimes a pat on the back. Others are intended to further
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                          aggravate the opposing player whilst, perhaps, being made to appear like an attempt at
                          conciliation. In our judgment, Mr Suarez placing his hand on the back of Mr Evra's head
                          fell into the latter category.
                          Of course it does and of course he was attempting to aggravate the guy but how does this have any reference to the case. FFS, these lot are clowns.

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                            Originally posted by Chrono View Post
                            In English we also often say "10 times or more" when in fact it didn't happen. It's called bull****ting.
                            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              Originally posted by Chrono View Post
                              Of course it does and of course he was attempting to aggravate the guy but how does this have any reference to the case. FFS, these lot are clowns.
                              Did he place his hand on the back of Evra's head in a racist way?

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                                Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                                The more I read it, the more it boils my piss.

                                I can't find the words.
                                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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