Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Exiled_red]

Twitter is unbelievable. Every single journo, blogger, 'neutral'..........they are all still laying into us, ripping both the club's and Suarez's statements to shreds. Just **** off.

Most of them were urging us not to appeal a few days ago. It was clear to anyone that had read the report, that we'd do this if we didn't appeal.

[Fivex]

Twitter is unbelievable. Every single journo, blogger, 'neutral'..........they are all still laying into us, ripping both the club's and Suarez's statements to shreds. Just **** off.

It's the type of thing that creates blind rage when you let it get to you.

Breathe

[Chris]

SamWallaceIndySam Wallace

Dalglish: 'We know what has gone on and what is not in that report'. Says that he does not regret the Suarez t-shirt episode

[TheElephantMan]

I like the statement, we've made it clear that we believe the accusations were bull****. There was seemingly little else we could do.

I still feel very disappointed for Suarez and hope in some other way he gets the opportunity to clear his name. I never believed that he repeatedly racially abused Evra and the statements made by that odious little **** were in all probability a total fabrication. Glad this has reached some sort of a conclusion anyway.

[Fredo]

I love Kenny. He epitomises this club.

[Redshadow]

Simple enough way of getting back at them on Two fronts - Have Gerrard or A N Other (Skrtel maybe?) ahem accidently 'collide' with Evra in February's return match & so, so, so regretfully lead to him breaking a leg/being crippled & being out of footy for a Loooong while & the other avenue? Simples also. As I've argued Non-stop elsewhere? Luis should take out a Civil case against the FA &/or Evra as is his right as a current citizen of the UK for slander/libel/defamation of his character & the impact it has had on him. It might not even go to trial given the sheer Weakness of the jokes made up by Evra's camp - but one thing it Will ensure? Is that the evidence & the Reasons for there being No trial? Would be examined in Public & Evra & the FA's position? Thereby effectively destroyed in as glaring a spotlight as is possible - In fact? No wonder they're anxious for us to drop it all now - Makes rather a lot of sense that they cannot be looking forward to so public a humiliation as Luis can inflict on them if he so chooses. The sooner he does it? The sooner the FA will be utterly humiliated (Especially with tonight's statement by us) And rightly so............

[Shaggy]

Disgrace

BrianDurand56 Brian Durand
Should be 'I addressed him 'negro', but I'm still innocent' (not *a* negro). Daily Mirror lazy journalism again. pic.twitter.com/JZVvNGrX

[MrMichael]

What the club come out wearing tshirts supporting Surez then release what I feel is just a load of words that will not really achieve anything. The club had a chance to address the FA but failed. I feel sorry for Suarez he must be feeling helpless now. Once again the FA have won by fear and intimidation.

Sorry, but how? With all due respect, you seem to be missing the fundamental point that the option to appeal the judgement, as in to "clear Suarez' name", simply wasn't there. An appeal could only be lodged on the basis of procedural error; once the FA had decided to agree with Evra we had no recourse to challenge that determination. None.

It is also perfectly possible the club were informed by the FA behind closed doors that if they appealed the ban had a very good chance of being lengthened.

I thought we should have appealled, because the decison was clearly wrong. I guess we were never going to get it overturned, so I guess we took the decision to have the ban now because the games he misses aren't as big - hopefully he'll only miss 4 PL games with tonight's being the only big games. If we'd appealled he'd probably have missed games against Spurs, Man Utd, Everton and Arsenal.

Again, we couldn't appeal the actual decision. Just the severity of it, on the grounds of technicalities. And the FA appear to have done a pretty good job of making it relatively watertight according to their own rules. Yes we can all look at all sorts of elements of the procedure etc which look unfair etc, but ultimately that's how the FA work, and we haven't got much choice in that.

I really think the club have done the right thing. We've made it clear we support Suarez and do not accept the verdict, but are not going to get the result we want so might as well get the whole thing over with asap.

[Craig_H]

Why in ****'s name havent we ****ed the Mirror off?

No more press conferences, no more interviews, no more anything. Just **** them off.

[MrMichael]

Disgrace

Oh good lord, so the Spanish word "negro" now directly translates as "a negro" does it?

Seriously, just don't post any more of what the press are saying, its too infuriating and they are obviously not going to alter their stance on this or attempt to report the Suarez/LFC side of the story fairly.

[mick the click]

The statement from us is pretty clear - although the LFC viewpoint won't be reported - but I wish we had gone to town, highlighting the inconsistencies from the FA in microscopic detail.

I don't know whether it's because I'm a scouser, or simply because I can be (in rare circumstances) be a determinedly belligerent and individual in the face of blatant wrongdoing...and the FA are clearly beyond contempt, not only on this matter.

I am bitterly disappointed we didn't stand up to the cnuts. Still, I'm sure that bigger brains than mine were brought to bear.

SamWallaceIndySam Wallace

Dalglish: 'We know what has gone on and what is not in that report'.

And?

[Baracus]

Whatever we did, the FA werent going to budge, they were always going to say "He's guilty and that's that" so i fail to see what we could have done to change that.

It was the best that they could do imo

It really does put the pressure on the FA to act over erry though

Not that they will mind

SamWallaceIndySam Wallace

Dalglish: 'We know what has gone on and what is not in that report'. Says that he does not regret the Suarez t-shirt episode

I think we pissed off the FA even more with that T-Shirt Show, since then they have managed to **** us over royally. I still can't believe an incident like this goes on to produce a 115-page report. I could have done what the FA did on the back of a Toilet Tissue.

Why in ****'s name havent we ****ed the Mirror off?

No more press conferences, no more interviews, no more anything. Just **** them off.

****s

[Mostar]

I thought we should have appealled, because the decision was clearly wrong. I guess we were never going to get it overturned, so I guess we took the decision to have the ban now because the games he misses aren't as big - hopefully he'll only miss 4 PL games with tonight's being the only big games. If we'd appealed he'd probably have missed games against Spurs, Man Utd, Everton and Arsenal.

I think we didn't appeal cause we didn't want to risk the ban being increased (what type of institution doesn't allow the proper appeal process and threatens to increase the ban if the appeal fails..).

I thought we were very clear that we still stand behind our player and that we don't agree at all with their decision but we won't appeal coz we don't believe FA is an objective institution in which only conclusive evidence is used in considering the decision of this magnitude but instead they allowed personal pre-judgements, personal agendas and other player's individual statement to be used as sole "piece of evidence" on which their ruling is based.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see LFC giving Suarez legal and monetary support to pursue this matter through British Legal System with us working behind the scene and Luis doing this on his "own".

[Chris]

Liverpool fear row could force Luis Suarez out of England

By Chris Bascombe

10:52PM GMT 03 Jan 2012

The Merseyside club want Suárez protected if rival fans or players tarnish him as a racist because of the report of the Independent Regulatory Commission. The commission made it clear it did not consider Suárez a racist, and that a breach of rule E3 did not necessarily constitute racially motivated abuse. Liverpool expect the FA to act vigorously upon this should the South American be condemned in future.

They scrapped an appeal because they feared the club would have been damaged by prolonging the saga, and felt pursuing their case for another two months just to reduce the ban would have been counter-productive.

However, they are adamant the conclusions of the commission are biased heavily in favour of Evra, and insist there is still no corroborating evidence to validate his allegations.

The club’s hierarchy — including principal owner John W Henry and chairman Tom Werner – remain convinced the commission took a pre-determined stance on the striker’s guilt. That is rejected by the commission, which says Liverpool had an opportunity to challenge the make-up of the panel before the hearing.

Suárez, Liverpool believe, is an innocent victim being used as a scapegoat to enable the FA to show it takes a tough line on racism.

At the heart of Liverpool’s continued rejection of the conclusions is a belief Evra’s evidence was not subject to the same levels of scrutiny as Suárez’s. Liverpool argue there are serious examples of Evra changing his story after giving evidence on Oct 15 which have been under-played, particularly in relation to the severity of the words used by Suárez.

The commission did not consider it of great importance that Evra had claimed to be abused 10 times, in a TV interview on Oct 15, in the most severe of racial terms, but his manager said it was five times to the referee. The report settled on the use of the word “negro” – not the word originally claimed by Evra – seven times in its conclusions.

Liverpool believe this is one of the most inconsistent aspects of the whole case, of fundamental importance to the credibility and accuracy of the accusation, and yet it has been barely given weight by the commission. They also feel the fact Evra admitted provoking Suárez with abusive language of his own should have led to disciplinary procedures.

A thorough analysis of why Suárez pinched Evra, which the French defender himself admitted he had not even recalled or paid attention to during the game, was given huge importance by the panel.

Liverpool are bemused why this was considered more significant than Evra’s insulting words to Suárez which started the altercation.

Instead, the Anfield hierarchy suggest it is evidence related to what Suárez said, which altered during the course of witness testimony from Damien Comolli and Dirk Kuyt, which was decisive in the judgment.

The Merseyside club are also disturbed that the FA met Evra three times before the commission sat, and Liverpool’s legal team were not aware of this until the hearing began.

There has been no criticism from the club of their own legal team’s handling of the saga, but there are clear contradictions — and have been throughout — between what senior Anfield officials believe and what was actually said during the hearing.

Liverpool know their new statement is likely to receive more criticism, but it was decided that abandoning an appeal to reduce the sentence, while re-emphasising their belief in Suárez’s innocence, was the only way to draw a line under the grubby saga.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8991133/Liverpool-fear-row-could-force-Luis-Suarez-out-of-England.html

[BootRoom]

As proud as I was when we fought the allegation and supported Luis with the statements and t shirt I'm now embarrassed and ****ing appalled.
We've allowed one of our players to be labelled a racist by the FA on the basis of no evidence whatsoever.
There is no way whatsoever Man U would have done the same if it were Rooney accused of abusing Johnson (for example)
They would have stabbed anyone in the back to clear their man's name, been ruthless with the FA while we bend over and take it up the arse like the 2nd best whipping boys we've become.

I'm disgusted, nice guys come 2nd and we're too ****ing nice

I wonder who made the call. If Suarez was given the option to call it a day and he took it then I'd just feel really bad for him. If however he was willing to go to an appeal but the Club put the kybosh on it I'd be ****ing livid.

With Kenny's words tonight though I'm not sure what to think. I'm just wondering what the stuff that's not in the report is exactly. It's so ****ing annoying. We should spill then beans on everything.