Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Craig_H]

Is it just me or does this whole witch-hunt against Suarez have racist undertones?

That's the biggest irony of the whole thing.

They're stitching him up because he's foreign. Couldnt make it up.

THEY stitch him up for 'racism' because HE is foreign.

[Fosterbloke]

Although our club have taken the decision not to challenge the findings of the one-sided hearing, we haven't. There are quite a lot of us and we could still give them quite a headache if we organised ourselves properly.

That's the beauty of social networks. Focus on a critical point and go for it for all it's worth. Critical mass is all that's needed.

Can we build a campaign? What critical point, if successfully rebutted, would see the FA's argument crumble?

[BootRoom]

Of course, but it has a greater level of readership in the North of England in working class cities and towns. As we don't buy The Sun then it wouldn't surprise me if a significant percentage of their circulation is in the Merseyside area? I would imagine that The Sun's loss was The Daily Mirror's gain, but now that they're taking the lead in their stance against our club they will obviously lose a lot of their readership in the area.

I don't think bitters or mancs, or any other fans of North West teams will be contemplating a boycott, and I'm doubtful many of our fans will, either; what would they buy instead? You've already alluded to how ****e it is, with it's emphasis on celebrity news bollocks, so I don't think the current readership that laps up that sort of cack will be kicking up a fuss. I remember being in a shop yonks ago and seeing a giant picture of Posh Spice on the front page simply because she had a new short hair-do, and I couldn't ****ing believe it warranted front page attention. What sort of a cunt would buy a paper like that?

[Fosterbloke]

They're stitching him up because he's foreign

What could lead you to that conclusion? I think that's a baseless accusation with regards to the report, especially as Evra is also foreign.

[Craig_H]

What could lead you to that conclusion? I think that's a baseless accusation with regards to the report, especially as Evra is also foreign.

[BootRoom]

What could lead you to that conclusion? I think that's a baseless accusation with regards to the report, especially as Evra is also foreign.

Sacrificial lamb, slaughtered to stick the boot into FIFA. You think a high-profile English international player would get worked over like this? Then there is also the manc angle; that just put the top hat on it.

[TheElephantMan]

Is it just me or does this whole witch-hunt against Suarez have racist undertones?

Of course it does. I thought I understood racism before the FA decided they needed a scapegoat to underpin their stance against racism. Choosing Suarez as that person is a bit weird because he doesn't typify a racist, being of mixed race himself and the well documented causes he has supported against racism.

I honestly think that the FA have taken the fight against racism backwards with their illogical preference for Patrice Evra's statement. Now a non-white player from South America is going to be subjected to abuse from supporters everywhere he goes! And this is progress? I think that the only person who is genuinely racist in this whole sorry saga is Evra himself. He seems so permanently loaded with his own personal issues that he feels the need to justify anything he doesn't agree with as an attack on his colour. If the FA are holding this person up as a model of credibility then it starts to make people ask difficult questions about their own opinions and principles.

[TheElephantMan]

I don't think bitters or mancs, or any other fans of North West teams will be contemplating a boycott

So people from Wales and down South will carry on buying that ****rag?! Who cares?

[Mostar]

Kenny on Suarez


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPgm1iVNZo&feature=g-all-u&context=G23ac944FAAAAAAAAAAA"]Dalglish defiant over Suarez ban as Liverpool lose at City - YouTube[/ame]

[Mostar]

Transcript of Kenny Dalglish's press conference about Luis Suárez (basically what he said in the video above but it is more clear what were exact questions which is difficult to hear in Youtube video)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/04/kenny-dalglish-luis-suarez-transcript?CMP=twt_gu

After the 3-0 defeat at Manchester City Liverpool's manager defended the statements put out earlier by the club and the Uruguayan player over his eight-match FA ban

The following is a transcript from the Liverpool press conference after the Anfield club's 3-0 defeat at Manchester City on Tuesday night:

Reporter: "Kenny, the wider world is pretty shocked that, if a player can call someone 'negro' and the player who is the victim in this takes offence, that there is no apology or contrition offered from your club."

Dalglish: "I would have thought that, if you pronounced the word properly, you maybe understand it better. I think it was Spanish he was speaking and I don't think you were speaking Spanish there."

Reporter: "OK, if a player calls someone 'negro' [Spanish pronunciation], surely the player who takes offence deserves an apology?"

Dalglish: "Ask a linguistic expert, which certainly I am not. They will tell you that the part of the country in Uruguay where he [Luis Suárez] comes from, it is perfectly acceptable. His wife calls him that and I don't think he is offended by her. We have made a statement and I think it is there for everybody to read. Luis has made a brilliant statement and we will stand by him."

Reporter: "But the FA verdict said it was 'simply incredible' to suggest it wasn't used in an offensive way when they were clearly arguing and it wasn't friendly."

Dalglish: "There's a lot of things we'd like to say and a lot we could say but we would only get ourselves in trouble. We are not trying to be evasive … well, we are being evasive because we don't like getting ourselves in trouble. But we know what has gone on. We know what is not in the report and that's important for us. So without me getting ourselves in trouble, I think that's it finished."

Reporter: "Why take the ban now and not play the next three games, including the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester City?"

Dalglish: "He could have played for a fortnight but he has to serve eight games at some stage and this time is as good as any, isn't it? It was better to get the situation over and done with."

Reporter: "Mark Lawrenson was saying on the radio that you've got to fear now whether Suárez may feel unsettled playing in England. Is that a concern?"

Dalglish: "Because Mark Lawrenson said it? No. I don't see why we have to reply to anybody. If you're asking if I have any concern about Luis playing in England, then no."

Reporter: "Is he strong enough?"

Dalglish: "I don't have a problem with Luis playing in England."

Reporter: "Do you regret wearing the T-shirts?"

Dalglish: "You see, if one of you guys were in trouble, would you help him? Would you support him if you knew the truth and you knew it was right? Would you support him?"

Reporter: "But not with T-shirts when he has been found guilty …"

Dalglish: "Why not? If they want to show their support for their team-mate, what's wrong with that? It was a fabulous statement to make visually of their support for a guy who is endeared in the dressing room, one of their closest friends in the dressing room, and all of his friends in the dressing room can speak up adequately and perfectly well for him. And I think it is very dangerous and unfortunate that you don't actually know the whole content of what went on at the hearing. I'm not prepared, and I can't say it, but I am just saying it is really unfortunate you never got to hear it. That's all I'm saying."

Reporter: "Kenny, given how the wider public are so opposed to your view, what do you have to lose by telling us and revealing what you're saying was not included in the FA statement?"

Dalglish: "It's up to the club to decide what they want to do."

Reporter: "But if you have something to say, surely say it – because the alternative is you are digging a bigger hole for yourself?"

Dalglish: "I don't think we are digging a bigger hole but I just think it's unfortunate we can't be more forthcoming. That's the unfortunate thing."

Reporter: "In your two statements you basically accused the FA of a conspiracy against your club."

Dalglish: "So they have made a statement then …"

Liverpool press officer intervenes and asks for no more questions on Suárez.

Reporter: "The hearing was to lay out all the evidence, 115 pages of evidence, and you have said they [the FA] have done it subjectively. So why do you think the FA are targeting Liverpool and Suárez?"

Dalglish: "Maybe wrong place, wrong time. It could have been anybody. I can't answer for the FA, you ask them."

Reporter: "You think there is an agenda against Liverpool?"

Dalglish: "No. You said that. I never. You get yourself in trouble, I'm all right."

Reporter: "Are you concerned Suárez's first game back could be at Old Trafford?"

Dalglish: "I'll just be delighted to get him back."

[Arn]

Dalglish: "It's up to the club to decide what they want to do."

More or less confirms that the owners made the decision and Kenny and Suarez didn't had any say on it.

Don't like that at all.

[Craig_H]

More or less confirms that the owners made the decision and Kenny and Suarez didn't had any say on it.

Don't like that at all.

It doesnt at all. You have a habit of wild exaggeration and it gets people on your back, but at the same time, you do wildly exaggerate. Not just with this, but with all sorts.

[Mostar]

More or less confirms that the owners made the decision and Kenny and Suarez didn't had any say on it.

Don't like that at all.

Arn you have no clue like any of us.

No one except few people in the close circle know exactly why decision is made as it did and who made that call.

We can all guess but in the know is only a few of them.

[TheElephantMan]

More or less confirms that the owners made the decision and Kenny and Suarez didn't had any say on it.

Don't like that at all.

That's the first post I've read of yours which makes some sense!

[Craig_H]

Arn you have no clue like any of us.

No one except few people in the close circle know exactly why decision is made as it did and who made that call.

We can all guess but in the know is only a few of them.

Exactly. Until cream confirms it, there's no point in speculating.