Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[The_weatherman]

I do care, and we all have to care because the wider public believe and take what these cunts say as gospel....i.e. we are a racist supporting club. That is the impression they are leaving.

I understand what you are saying, but I for one don't care, we are not going to change their opinion, it's impossible so I don't care what they say.

[kop-al-74]

Has anyone spoken to there children about this whole saga.I have 2 boys 7 and 10 and they adore Suarez.They have always been educated with regards to racism but I found this a little more challenging to make them comprehend it.

It's quite a fine line.

I am quite concerned now with them going back to school today what the other kids may say to them about Liverpool because what some other kids dads may have just flipantly told there kids.

Like it or not Liverpool fc has been tarnished.

[Vermilion]

I have to agree with this. Im not bothered about perception about our club. But I dont like that Suarez/LFC have not apologised. Even a token gesture would have been nice.

Even if we believe he has maliciously made most of it up ? Which we seem to.

Don't see us apologising to someone who's done that, nor should we.

[ronanm]

Has anyone spoken to there children about this whole saga.I have 2 boys 7 and 10 and they adore Suarez.They have always been educated with regards to racism but I found this a little more challenging to make them comprehend it.

It's quite a fine line.

I am quite concerned now with them going back to school today what the other kids may say to them about Liverpool because what some other kids dads may have just flipantly told there kids.

Like it or not Liverpool fc has been tarnished.

Fair point. But even had he been cleared his name would be tarnished.

[Alex]

Even if we believe he has maliciously made most of it up ?

We dont know that he has. I have always been brought up, as Im sure most have, to apologise to people if I offended them. Rightly or Wrongly.

Club should at least do the same. They need to repair the broken relationship between the clubs too.

[Vermilion]

We dont know that he has. I have always been brought up, as Im sure most have, to apologise to people if I offended them. Rightly or Wrongly.

Club should at least do the same. They need to repair the broken relationship between the clubs too.

We don't know Suarez did anything worthy of all this ****e either, but will Evra and utd be apologising for what he said to Suarez ?

[elrichio86]

The club should now refuse to comment on ANY Suarez/Evra questions

It should be met with you've read our statements we have nothing more to say

This is the right thing for us now - we need to let the whole issue die down for a couple of months. At the moment there's simply no chance of a reasonable discussion with anybody - feelings are running too high on both sides.

The papers will obviously keep asking their questions (as we saw yesterday) as they will want to continue the story to help them sell more copies. Any questions should be referred back to the statements, and left at that.

[Nicey]

We dont know that he has. I have always been brought up, as Im sure most have, to apologise to people if I offended them. Rightly or Wrongly.

Club should at least do the same. They need to repair the broken relationship between the clubs too.

And what about Evra who started all of this apologizing for insulting Suarez and his people ? when are we going to get a statement for MUFC or Evra for that matter ... answer never

Move on, the matter is closed.

[Nicey]

This is the right thing for us now - we need to let the whole issue die down for a couple of months. At the moment there's simply no chance of a reasonable discussion with anybody - feelings are running too high on both sides.

The papers will obviously keep asking their questions (as we saw yesterday) as they will want to continue the story to help them sell more copies. Any questions should be referred back to the statements, and left at that.

Absolutely take the energy out of the situation, announce there will be no further statement on the matter, period.

[Vermilion]

And what about Evra who started all of this apologizing for insulting Suarez and his people ? when are we going to get a statement for MUFC or Evra for that matter ... answer never

Move on, the matter is closed.

Our stance has been clear from the start, based on what the club believe happened, and what the club know happened, why would we change that stance now if it's what we believe.

In time, imo, this fiasco will return to haunt the english fa, the evidence now needed to prove a man guilty has massively lessened according their handling of this.

[Alex]

And what about Evra who started all of this apologizing for insulting Suarez and his people ? when are we going to get a statement for MUFC or Evra for that matter ... answer never

Move on, the matter is closed.

Evra wasn't charged by the FA and banned for 8 games. If it comes about that he was doing what is said, and then banned the same Id expect an apology from them too. Were not talking about Evra though. What he wants to do is his business. If he wants to be classless then let him.

I just think it would have shown something if there was an apology for the offence caused.

People don't go around not saying sorry for things if you don't think they will get an apology back. So why should the club.

I just think a little humility from all concerned is needed.

[Vermilion]

Evra wasn't charged by the FA and banned for 8 games. If it comes about that he was doing what is said, and then banned the same Id expect an apology from them too. Were not talking about Evra though. What he wants to do is his business. If he wants to be classless then let him.

I just think it would have shown something if there was an apology for the offence caused.

People don't go around not saying sorry for things if you don't think they will get an apology back. So why should the club.

I just think a little humility from all concerned is needed.

People go around apologising for things they believe they have done wrong.

You don't apologise when you don't mean it, that would be pathetic, and send out all the wrong signals on your stance.

If someone falsley accused YOU, you were innocent, but found guilty by a kangaroo court, would YOU really apologise ?

[Alex]

If I upset someone unknowingly. I will apologise. Wouldn't you?

[MrMichael]

Evra wasn't charged by the FA and banned for 8 games. If it comes about that he was doing what is said, and then banned the same Id expect an apology from them too. Were not talking about Evra though. What he wants to do is his business. If he wants to be classless then let him.

I just think it would have shown something if there was an apology for the offence caused.

People don't go around not saying sorry for things if you don't think they will get an apology back. So why should the club.

I just think a little humility from all concerned is needed.

Yeah. To be honest, I can see why we've gotten so defensive now, however I do feel we could have helped ourselves to have come out straight after the incident with an apology for any offence, and an explanation of how, from Suarez background, absolutely none was intended. That could have been combined with a rebutal that it was use frequently and in an offensive way. Seeing as Suarez admitted using the term "negro" that wouldn't have damaged his defence in any way, and might have calmed the situation down a bit.

I'm still of the opinion that Evra genuinely felt insulted by what he thought was being said to him. Whether he has then exaggerated his account is another matter, but it would have been sensible to have apologised for that perceived offence at the time.

[Vermilion]

If I upset someone unknowingly. I will apologise. Wouldn't you?

Only if i truly thought i had. Whereas thre club obviously believe Evra has taken an innocent situation and made a lot out of it, knowingly.

Tbh, this shows the power of the media, the amount of lfc fans that seem to be mellowing on this, even though no real evidence came to light other than what we already knew, and considering that before the verdict, many thought to charge Luis the fa must have some golden nugget of incrimnation.

Yet not one of 22 players, 11 of them team mates, not one of 3 officials, and not one behind the goal mic/camera heard or saw any of the numerous insults Suarez is alleged to have thrown, i can have it that they could ALL miss it once, but to not hear 5 or 7 of the same word is odd in the extreme.