Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Vermilion]

I think what's been in the news of late has effected our decision not to appeal.

[Exiled_red]

It will be interesting to see how long time they will suspend Terry, if they will do it at all.

If they don't suspend him at least eight games, should really be something like 16+ games because what he said is already a fact there isn't any doubt that he said what he is accused of saying, then the whole kick it out campaign is dead in the water and something you can just laugh at.

So will it be just another Mascherano incident when the whole campaign lasted one game or will it be a campaign that really means something?

I think it'll be less than 8 if he's found guilty.

It seems that the FA regard one man's word as strongly as any other form of evidence, so I can't see him getting a longer sentence than the 8 matches. Also when you consider the FA said Suarez got such a long ban because they deemed he said it 7 times and Terry is accused of saying it once. If they find Terry guilty his ban will IMO be shorter than the one handed down to Suarez. IMO the ground work here has been laid to give Terry a much shorter ban if he is found guilty.

[Lecter]

We all know how it'll pan out.

Whether hes found guilty or not the FA wont act and investigate the accusations using the same parameters they did with the Suarez/Evra case

[Daniel 7]

I can just imagine the FA passing the buck on this, justifying it as a Crown prosecution, so it has therefore been taken care of. Not for them to interfere.

[Lecter]

I think it'll be less than 8 if he's found guilty.

It seems that the FA regard one man's word as strongly as any other form of evidence, so I can't see him getting a longer sentence than the 8 matches. Also when you consider the FA said Suarez got such a long ban because they deemed he said it 7 times and Terry is accused of saying it once. If they find Terry guilty his ban will IMO be shorter than the one handed down to Suarez. IMO the ground work here has been laid to give Terry a much shorter ban if he is found guilty.

I'd be genuinely surprised if they ban Terry at all

They'll come out with a comment along the lines of "This case has been dealt with by the criminal courts and as such the FA is powerless to act"

Mark my words irrespective of the result they will not look at the Terry case using the same parameters as the Suarez/Evra case

That is fundamentally wrong imo

[Helios Creed]

Terry's caught on camera calling someone "a ****ing black cunt".

To me it's far worse than the Suarez case. It really is an acid test for the FA, the so-called "tough on racism" and all this "kick it out" stuff. Let's ****ing see how anti-racist they really are, how they'll deal with the England captain calling a fellow pro a "****ing black cunt".

We all know how it'll pan out and the FA will be a laughing stock across the world.

especially as they accused Suarez of damaging the image of English football... makes me wonder if coming down hard on him was preparing the way for having to throw the book at England's finest. On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if he gets off scotfree, especially as he will at least get a fair trial not a kangaroo court.

[Alex]

Id assume if he is found guilty then the FA will act. But if he is found innocent, then the FA cant really do anything.

[TheElephantMan]

Terry's caught on camera calling someone "a ****ing black cunt".

To me it's far worse than the Suarez case. It really is an acid test for the FA, the so-called "tough on racism" and all this "kick it out" stuff. Let's ****ing see how anti-racist they really are, how they'll deal with the England captain calling a fellow pro a "****ing black cunt".

We all know how it'll pan out and the FA will be a laughing stock across the world.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Suarez is alleged to have racially abused Evra 5, 6, 7, 10 or more than ten times.

[Shaggy]

Id assume if he is found guilty then the FA will act. But if he is found innocent, then the FA cant really do anything.

I'm of the understanding even if he is cleared in court the FA can still charge him. We know they won't, they'll sweep it under the carpet, but I've read the FA are still able to charge him if he is found not guilty, partly due to the much lower burden of proof in the FA's kangaroo "courts"

[Daniel 7]

Thing with Terry is there are no cultural interpretations. He said it, was filmed saying it, he's the England captain, he's spent his whole career in England, was brought up in a multi cultural city.

He has NO excuse.

[Exiled_red]

Id assume if he is found guilty then the FA will act. But if he is found innocent, then the FA cant really do anything.

That's what I see as well.

Although the FA should investigate even if he is found innocent, as the burden of proof is much lower for FA punishment than criminal punishment. But we all know what the FA should do and what they actually do aren't always the same

[Daniel 7]

Suarez is leaving though isn't he?

Can't see him staying beyond the end of the season.

[Buzzo]

What next, Frank Lamparf accusing Ya Ya Toure of calling him a Honky then Toure getting banned for 10 games because although there isn't any other evidence Frank was more convincing when speaking the queen's english during the hearing.

It's completely ****ing mental

[~LFCHistory~]

Suarez is leaving though isn't he?

Can't see him staying beyond the end of the season.

His statement on the offal doesn't read like the words of a man who wants to leave.

[TheElephantMan]

Thing with Terry is there are no cultural interpretations. He said it, was filmed saying it, he's the England captain, he's spent his whole career in England, was brought up in a multi cultural city.

He has NO excuse.

I think the crux of this will be the number of times "offensive" words were used. Suarez admitted using the word negro (in Spanish) once, but his punishment was for using the word (in English) many times. The lack of evidence and witnesses didn't make the slightest bit of difference and the fact that there is evidence of John Terry making a racist remark won't necessarily result in a harsher punishment - I still think that the FA will judge the players on the number of times abusive words were used.