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    Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
    I've said it before, but the fact that the FA are basically accountable to nobody (other than themselves) is ridiculous. When you add that certain people from certain clubs sit on the FA board, it makes it all the more absurd.
    That's exactly the kind of petition to raise that I'm certain would get the 100k votes needed to be discussed at parliament.

    It might take a year or so, but eventually by default there will be enough clubs that get ****ed over by the corrupt FA to hit the figure.
    Hello mert.

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      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
      The Mail have only just discovered that Youtube video of Evra using the 'n' word....quick off the mark, eh?

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...o-youtube.html
      Hello mert.

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        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
        The Mail have only just discovered that Youtube video of Evra using the 'n' word....quick off the mark, eh?

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...o-youtube.html
        It says that Evra is using a similar word to the offensive word Suarez used which is wrong.

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          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          The Mail have only just discovered that Youtube video of Evra using the 'n' word....quick off the mark, eh?

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...o-youtube.html
          So would you rather they either found it straight away, or not at all. Give them a break. At least its being put out there. I don't see how it makes him look bad anyway. Its a 7 year old video. Everyone is wiser now than they were 7 years ago.
          *Except Michael, who died.

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            It's good they've printed it though. This is all restoring balance,previously absent,to this saga.
            I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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              If they had posted the video without the comment about Suarez using a similar offensive word then it would help restore balance.

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                Originally posted by pondus View Post
                From that article I found this bit interesting:

                It is Liverpool’s belief that Evra was coached by the FA disciplinary team before meeting the commission, enabling him to piece together his version of events to tally with the footage and appear more consistent in his verbal evidence than he had been in earlier statements.
                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                  Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                  I've said it before, but the fact that the FA are basically accountable to nobody (other than themselves) is ridiculous. When you add that certain people from certain clubs sit on the FA board, it makes it all the more absurd.
                  The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                    Originally posted by Lee View Post


                    Why are you so dull?
                    I ran out of Brasso.
                    Was muß, das muß.

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                      Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                      From that article I found this bit interesting:



                      The truth will out. What if a series of private meetings between the FA and Evra are revealed.
                      I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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                        Liverpool's hypocrisy undermines anti-racism and our young people

                        The future of football needs strong and decisive leadership especially for the next generation of young people


                        The Liverpool striker Luis Suárez wears a Kick It Out anti-racism T-shirt before his side's game at Chelsea last November. Photograph: Tom Jenkins for the Guardian

                        Liverpool FC need to take a hard look at themselves and how they have responded to the complaint and the investigations into the allegations of abuse in the Patrice Evra/Luis Suárez case.

                        Throughout the entirety of the proceedings, over the past three months, all we have heard are denials and denigration of Evra. Since the publication of the 115-page report of the findings of the FA's independent commission, Liverpool's vitriol has increased. Suárez's attempt at a belated apology is nothing short of lamentable. I cannot believe that a club of Liverpool's stature, and with how it has previously led on matters of social injustice and inequality, can allow its integrity and credibility to be debased by such crass and ill‑considered responses.

                        At such a historic time in Britain, Doreen and Neville Lawrence have taught and inspired us never to give up the fight for equality, justice and fair treatment following Wednesday's sentencing of Gary Dobson and David Norris for the murder of their son Stephen Lawrence in 1993.

                        With all these things, you come out of it with more credit if you hold your hands up. OK, Liverpool may have thought they had to defend their player as he is innocent. But if the club does not carry out a thorough investigation, how can it understand that Suárez said things which are not acceptable, but that he didn't comprehend this due to his background?

                        If this is the case, Liverpool have failed him. Because they have not told Suárez what the club's expectations are; that they have a zero policy towards racism. If he is ignorant of what is required of him, Liverpool should be asking: how come we have got a contract with the player?

                        Unless, of course, Liverpool are saying that they have explained to Suárez what the club want and he has defied them.

                        In any other sector, if someone makes a claim of racially motivated or abusive behaviour, an employer has to investigate if they are competent because this may be damaging to the business. Clubs in these cases don't seem to be. And when it's a high-profile incident involving a big-name player, they want to say, unequivocally, we defend our player 100%. Why are people not showing leadership and apologising, saying that we won't do it again, and ask that they can move on?

                        Liverpool have been particularly hypocritical. You can't on the one hand wear a Kick It Out T-shirt in a week of campaigning against racism when this is also happening on the pitch: it's the height of hypocrisy. Liverpool players wore a T-shirt saying: "We support Luis Suárez", seemingly whatever the outcome. This was a dreadful knee-jerk reaction because it stirs things up.

                        And, then, this was followed, after the verdict, with a kind of stance that says: "Hey, we support anti-racism and Kick It Out. But we're not sorry. All we are really saying is that we blame someone else, not us."

                        In the wider context of racism throughout our society there are issues. Undoubtedly there are still areas in this country you would not feel comfortable being in, and that is not just on grounds of potentially being racially abused.

                        I do think that the police service is much better than it was in 1993, when Stephen Lawrence was murdered. You can actually raise matters of race in a police station and get a degree of sensitivity that gives you comfort that you are going to be treated in a fair manner.

                        What we've got to do is keep building on that. We had the MacPherson Report in 1999, which rolled into the Race Relations Act of 2000 and then things did move forward, but there's been a rolling back regarding equality since 2005, due to the reaction to the July bombings in London. And this has continued with the present government and the suspicion that is held of a multicultural society. It's important that we sharpen up our focus regarding these matters.

                        This is a momentous time for us. Four million people play football in this country and this weekend there will be many kids in parks and on pitches: they need to know that if they misbehave, they can't get away with it. That is the big issue.

                        Since the incident we've not heard a word of complaint from Evra about how his character has been besmirched by Liverpool. This is surely something the FA and the PFA and the whole of football should be concerned about: we can't have a situation where there is just one side on the attack.

                        Surely the new owners, with their experiences of equality and inclusion in the US, can see how their brand is being devalued, and if they sanction this sort of lack of professionalism and moral leadership, we may as well pack up and go home and forget about anti‑racism.

                        The FA has shown that it has the bottle to back its Respect campaign by enforcing rules and regulations with regard to unacceptable behaviour and conduct. We have a duty and responsibility to demonstrate to the world how we deal with this issue. It's fine to criticise Fifa and Uefa but let's show we can take care of our own business.

                        The future of football needs such strong and decisive leadership, especially for the next generation of young people who play the game across the country. Let's remove all racists and bigots from football.

                        Lord Ouseley was head of the Commission for Racial Equality from 1993 to 2000
                        http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...arez-liverpool

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                          Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                          If they had posted the video without the comment about Suarez using a similar offensive word then it would help restore balance.
                          Evra will always get way with using the n word for obvious reasons.

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                            Oh, dear, I was getting very calm about this whole matter and was feeling comfortable in not caring, but this is outrageous, and frankly scandalous and I fail to see how these people get into such positions. What do they have to gain from keeping this whole matter alive?
                            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                              Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                              Evra will always get way with using the n word for obvious reasons.
                              Do as I say not as I do standards
                              Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                              #****CITY

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                                Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                                Evra will always get way with using the n word for obvious reasons.
                                If the word 'negro' and other words aren't allowed to be used on a football pitch (as the FA are suggesting) it shouldn't matter what colour the player using them is, they should all be punished in the same way. It would be racist not to...
                                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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