Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Suarez]

Exactly, my point it's part of the Eurocentric society we live in. I've seen the boxer Mayweather for example when he's training yelling "I'm black, rich and pretty" or something along those lines. I've never described myself or heard a white person saying "I'm white..." as a defining characteristic of whom they are.

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, just saying that's the way it is. I don't know how often black people think of white people as "white" unless it's in a predominantly black populas, which is hardly relevant for this topic of discussion.

I'm not sure it isn't, surely we need to discuss the issue in its entirity in order to understand it?

The Mayweather thing is a good point to make and there are too many areas like this that cross the lines. Its either all or its not. You cannot have someone saying what Mayweather has being treated differently to someone like me saying the equivalent. It all gets muddy and its why we're still having these problems now. One rule for one and one rule for another is never going to work, its what started it all in the first place so how on earth is it going to fix the issue it originally created?

[Suarez]

Completely ****ing agree man, the main culprits however aren't just the media and the cunts of journalists, it's the thicker than pig****, completely ****ing inept millions of ****ing dunces in that country that lap it all up, that buy their 20p Daily Star every morning, the ones that read all the ****e coming out of the media as their lives would be completely devoid of all intelligible meaning without the whole press gossip.

You get the same ****e newspapers in every country but by ****ing god, the English have perfected trash journalism and they have definitely perfected breaking people/institutions or whatever down, just to sell more papers - and this is also [and I've said it before] the reason England will never - EVER - E.V.E.R. - win any football tournament again.

The UK has gone to the dogs, I don't see anyway back.

[The Birdman]

I used to play football with a black lad called Simon Black, after a night out the cab dropped him off first and i called out "see you at training Monday Blacky" as he was walking towards his place.
The cabbie who was also black went ****ing mental, i was holding him off from killing me begging Blacky to come back and explain, which he eventually did after he stopped pissing himself laughing.

[sean_lfc]

I know a guy called Sean Black. His mates call him Blackman, sometimes Blacky, some call him Blackson. He is never offended and has never got into trouble for it. He's white and supports Liverpool too.

[Exiled_red]

What I don't get is, if Suarez did racially abuse Evra then why didn't Evra say something to the ref there and then.

If I was racially abused I'd be going bersek. From what I can see Evra didn't seem to make a complaint to the ref at that time, instead he left it until after the game.

Surely someone from the FA must have asked themselves this question no?

He did seem remarkable calm for someone who had been racial abused 10 times.

[Exiled_red]

Its all a load of sensationalist bollocks. The media in this country are a complete bunch of cunts, building **** like this up into some sort of witch hunt, radio presenters wanting people hung, drawn and quartered to feed the listeners, people in the FA using this and the Blatter stuff for nothing more than political gain and people like Fergie using it to destabilise our club whilst feeding the media machine to show themselves in a better light.

There seems to be very little intelligent debate on this matter in the media for all of the reasons above. If something is said without racist motive is it racism? At worst its simply ignorance. If I've said something that is unintentionally funny, did I tell a joke?

I'm switching off Talksport for good. At least one good things come out of this I suppose.

[Arn]

Its all a load of sensationalist bollocks. The media in this country are a complete bunch of cunts, building **** like this up into some sort of witch hunt, radio presenters wanting people hung, drawn and quartered to feed the listeners, people in the FA using this and the Blatter stuff for nothing more than political gain and people like Fergie using it to destabilise our club whilst feeding the media machine to show themselves in a better light.

There seems to be very little intelligent debate on this matter in the media for all of the reasons above. If something is said without racist motive is it racism? At worst its simply ignorance. If I've said something that is unintentionally funny, did I tell a joke?

I'm switching off Talksport for good. At least one good things come out of this I suppose.

You only need to look at the FA board and see the name Gill. Why that clear cut conflict of interest is allowed isn't a surprise.

We tried to get our man a place but IIRC Fergie said that it would be a conflict of interest if that happened..........

I think Gill is the only reason to why Suarez is charged. Gartside also have a place IIRC and he isn't exactly loving us to say the least. That means that we have two members of the FA board that hate us and United in turn have two that love them.

[Arn]

It isn't a conspiracy. It is just the way it is. Two FA board members that will do everything they can to get Suarez banned a long time whatever evidence is out there.

[pondus]

Not much is, but this is really starting to piss me off! Seems like our best player is being dragged through the mud and almost hung, only by the will of that ****ing cunt of a stinking cheating ****house Evra and LFC hater number one Mr. fergiecunt. I can't believe that the press doesn't see it. Only there to sell the papers and get paid, eh. Happy that our club is showing unconditional support, and that others are starting to speak out as well. The scum ****e have become too powerful, time to do something about it. Go Suarez and go Kenny, hope they take legal action against those ****ing scummers.

[BringbackBiscan]

Manchester United are the most powerful club in England. Their manager has more power then most do. That's not conspiracy stuff at all, just the truth.

[Fredo]

Manchester United are the most powerful club in England. Their manager has more power then most do. That's not conspiracy stuff at all, just the truth.

He uses his influence and that's bad enough.

[Leyton388]

The scum have too much power and that **** of a gob****e they call "the greatest manager off all time" has too much influance with his good old boys club the FA.

They have shaped the FA and the prem as they see fit for almost 20 years. Now if anyone dares stand up to them they are victimised and hung out to dry by the press and the good old boys club the FA. It happened with Rafa and it is happening with Luis.

Just look at the amount of times the **** has got off scott free from every FA charge he has ever faced or worse case got a "public" slap on the wrists when at the same time receiving the FA secret handshake.

As for the greatest manager of all time this couldn't be further from the truth. Bob paisley, Bill shankly, Matt busby Never went about publicly destroying others reputations for their own ends.

It is one rule for them and another for the rest. Until he is gone it will be the same. The best thing to happen to those lot was Kenny leaving and freddie boswell taking over LFC in 1991.

[Lee]

True but people are taking the meaning of negrito to mean 'black man' or 'little black man', people have also pointed out that it could be translated as 'mate' or 'pal'. It's easy to conclude 'calm down little black man' could be taken as racist, 'calm down pal' or 'calm down little fellow' or something similar isn't.

Absolutely. I think the issue we have is that there's so many conflicting answers as to what 'Negreto' actually means. I guess. Or the context in which it's delivered.

As i said in the previous post, i just wouldnt use either of them.

You couldn't call someone a bald *******? What about a fat tosser? Purple-nosed cunt? Craig I can see where you're coming from but there's no need to come across as *ahem* whiter than white.

Its all a load of sensationalist bollocks. The media in this country are a complete bunch of cunts, building **** like this up into some sort of witch hunt, radio presenters wanting people hung, drawn and quartered to feed the listeners, people in the FA using this and the Blatter stuff for nothing more than political gain and people like Fergie using it to destabilise our club whilst feeding the media machine to show themselves in a better light.

There seems to be very little intelligent debate on this matter in the media for all of the reasons above. If something is said without racist motive is it racism? At worst its simply ignorance. If I've said something that is unintentionally funny, did I tell a joke?

John Terry couldn't have timed his insult at Ferdinand any better. He's utter scum and it's been proved time again but the rags won't bring that up. The 9/11 stuff, the many racist accusations he's had, the affair, the fact he'll park in disabled bays and just pay the fines over and over, the £10k Chelsea tours that he did. Even his old man being a crook... he's a cunt.

Suarez handballs a clear goal in a WC QF (who wouldn't?), he has a nibble at someone once in six years as a pro (fair enough, not great), and perhaps from time to time he'll exaggerate a challenge. He makes a comment that only he really knows what context it's supposed to be taken in and he's hung out to dry. Our media is an embarrassment. Gutter stuff.

[Liverpel]

Then post a picture of the milky bar kid

There's no place for that sort of vile racism in this forum.

[ChesterDave]

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John Terry couldn't have timed his insult at Ferdinand any better. He's utter scum and it's been proved time again but the rags won't bring that up. The 9/11 stuff, the many racist accusations he's had, the affair, the fact he'll park in disabled bays and just pay the fines over and over, the £10k Chelsea tours that he did. Even his old man being a crook... he's a cunt.

Don't forget his mum being a thief