Kenny isn't what we need

[Arn]

I agree, apart from the 6 years, Rafa wasn't given any time.

Six years with joke owners. Try and make results if the owner don't support you or stab you in the back.

You simply don't seem to have a clue how difficult it is make results if the owner don't support you.

Rafa had to try and beat Ferraris with a Skoda.

£12m net a season. his last two seasons he made a profit in the transfer market.

[frank the tank]

Kenny won the league 17 years ago, so not quite 20 years.
Rafa's spell at Inter was a disaster, hence two seasons.

hmmm good argument buddie.......

you are suggesting that Kenny will win in in the next 2 1/2 seasons so.......

[Chris]

Six years with joke owners. Try and make results if the owner don't support you or stab you in the back.

You simply don't seem to have a clue how difficult it is make results if the owner don't support you.

Rafa had to try and beat Ferraris with a Skoda.

£12m net a season. his last two seasons he made a profit in the transfer market.

Hahahahahaha and you think every other club is perfectly run without its problems yeah? Get a grip man and he was backed with plenty, unfortunately his latter signings were absolute ****e though. Still, if he hadnt pissed Alonso off we then wouldnt have had to waste money on Aquilani (who we cant even sell for a fee now)

[RichC]

Rafa was a good manager but him man management skills certainly could do with improving.

[cream]

Six years with joke owners. Try and make results if the owner don't support you or stab you in the back.

You simply don't seem to have a clue how difficult it is make results if the owner don't support you.

Rafa had to try and beat Ferraris with a Skoda.

£12m net a season. his last two seasons he made a profit in the transfer market.

So why not give Kenny time with good owners?

Or should we bring Rafa back ? Coz that is what this is really about, isn't it, your love for Rafa.

[truefan999]

Oh dear. Everybody knows where I stand.

There is a discussion to be had but does it have to be so vitriolic and foul mouthed and abusive.

If someone makes a point you disagree with then debate it. Respond to their points with a rational argument instead of referring to people as "cunts", "****s" etc etc.

[Kenneth]

It's far too early to make such judgements. Personally, I doubt Kenny is the man who will take us right to the top, even with the funds. But it's possible.

The nightmare scenario is that Kenny ends up not quite cutting it as replacing him will be almost impossible unless he steps down. Precisely the reason I was nervous about him returning (and I'm sure FSG felt similar).

But it is too early for all this. If things don't look right in 12 months time, then maybe.

[truefan999]

It's far too early to make such judgements. Personally, I doubt Kenny is the man who will take us right to the top, even with the funds. But it's possible.

The nightmare scenario is that Kenny ends up not quite cutting it as replacing him will be almost impossible unless he steps down. Precisely the reason I was nervous about him returning (and I'm sure FSG felt similar).

But it is too early for all this. If things don't look right in 12 months time, then maybe.

A fair point. I would certainly give him until the end of the season before making any judgement. But I would be wary of giving him big money to spend in January.

[Kenneth]

A fair point. I would certainly give him until the end of the season before making any judgement. But I would be wary of giving him big money to spend in January.

But Comolli is supposed to be there to ensure purchases are right, for the manager and the club. I'm sure we will make significant investment, or as much as the stadium funding allows. And if we don't back Kenny, we've no way of judging whether he is a success.

[Kenneth]

Rafa was a good manager but him man management skills certainly could do with improving.

Obviously it's not possible now or ever, but Rafa with Kenny as his #2 could have happened and could have been a great combo. But it's just more hypothetical pointlessness.

[BringbackBiscan]

Oh dear. Everybody knows where I stand.

There is a discussion to be had but does it have to be so vitriolic and foul mouthed and abusive.

If someone makes a point you disagree with then debate it. Respond to their points with a rational argument instead of referring to people as "cunts", "****s" etc etc.

When you've been booted off the Liverpool way for being a manc you're someone to chat.

Don't make me copy & paste some of the stuff you've came out.

[CJ]

Arn just go away.

Most managers don't get it all their own way. Rafa did imo a great job. To say he did have time is at best silly. Maybe he didn't have the right backing and the problems at the club drained him. However other managers have had worse to contend with (at other clubs I mean) and would have loved to be in rafas position.

I agree with some of what you say but you seem to carry on and go further and further. Even taking into accountEnglish isn't your first language you seem to be well not all there

[scully]

Was is irrelevant, we need now. And he has a lot of work to do.

P.S. I have not or will not call for his head at this stage & i wasn't a big fan of Rafa either, but he did well in early days for us and credit to him for that

Oh great - more historical revisionism. Yes, Rafa's winning the CL in his first season with us (especially with the dross we had back then) was awesome, but League-wise his first season with us was an atrocity that had us losing to the likes of Crystal Palace on a regular basis. Ditto his following seasons. This constant harking back to Rafa as a messiah truly is ****ing embarrassing.

[CJ]

But Comolli is supposed to be there to ensure purchases are right, for the manager and the club. I'm sure we will make significant investment, or as much as the stadium funding allows. And if we don't back Kenny, we've no way of judging whether he is a success.

I really don't understand comollis role as stated by the owners and himself.

If a manager has the final say then how different is a chief scout.

I like the idea of dof but cant see how we get the best of that structure if it is as described.

[Vermilion]

Well what a load of bollocks, on the pitch and on the forums.

But hey, at least were still better than Newcastle!........................h: