Kenny isn't what we need

[Mostar]

Not necessarily. He and Pepe are very good friends and I am sure he could have convinced him to come as El Cuntino did with Chelsea.

Anyway, my point was that we didn't even bid and that is the problem.

If player doesn't want to come that is fine but we need to be there with other top clubs when it comes to recruitment of best footballers and I am not so sure we are.

[CJ]

Yeah he got **** overnight.

You could easily roll out Rafa's poor last two season's and say he needs to prove he still is a good manager, which would be bollocks, managers don't lose their marbles until they go senile.

How old are you if 20 years is overnight.

Isn't it rafas last season. His second to last season was when we finished second. I think if Rafa is out of the game much longer then your right. Or you could say that you have to continuously have to prove you are a great manager and this would apply to all.

[BringbackBiscan]

How old are you if 20 years is overnight.

Isn't it rafas last season. His second to last season was when we finished second. I think if Rafa is out of the game much longer then your right. Or you could say that you have to continuously have to prove you are a great manager and this would apply to all.

Kenny won the league 17 years ago, so not quite 20 years.

Rafa's spell at Inter was a disaster, hence two seasons.

[cream]

I love kenny. ive even got his pic on my phone but I dont think this going to work. when he was last manager we used to buy all the best players and perhaps managing a team with so much quality and exceptional levels of performance is easier than managing a load of **** that hes bought wih fsgs young player policy in mind.

I do believe that with this team rafa would get us into te champions league.

Ahhhh, that's lovely.

[dom9]

I think part of the problem is that teams have figured us out. Sit back, absorb the pressure at Anfield and ride a bit of luck. Too one dimensional when teams sit back. Need more from the wings.

[Mostar]

His agent (his father) said he'd only move to a club playing in the champions league, complete no goer again I'm afraid.

I think half the problem our signings is having with fans is so many expected your world class players to be signing for a club that isn't even in Europe and wouldn't be challenging for the league this year. Neither can we offer big big wages like both manc clubs & chelsea.

His father also said he not going anywhere this year and that he would stay with Valencia and he still left.

If we had sumbitted a bid, which we didn't, we don't know for sure if he would've said yes or no but what is more disappointing to me that we didn't even try.

[CJ]

Kenny isn't a better manager than Rafa.

But Rafa wasn't as perfect as he's made out to be sometimes, and I loved the guy.

His agent (his father) said he'd only move to a club playing in the champions league, complete no goer again I'm afraid.

I think half the problem our signings is having with fans is so many expected your world class players to be signing for a club that isn't even in Europe and wouldn't be challenging for the league this year. Neither can we offer big big wages like both manc clubs & chelsea.

[CJ]

Kenny won the league 17 years ago, so not quite 20 years.

Rafa's spell at Inter was a disaster, hence two seasons.

So 17 is closer to overnight than it is 20?

[Neil Young]

not convinced he'd have come either - even with a bid accepted I'd imagine he'd have still ended up at CFC

Who knows? The only thing that's more ridiculous than arguing about it is using a hypothetical situation as supporting 'evidence' for why Dalglish should be sacked or how things would be different if Benitez were manager or whatever...

[BringbackBiscan]

Not necessarily. He and Pepe are very good friends and I am sure he could have convinced him to come as El Cuntino did with Chelsea.

Anyway, my point was that we didn't even bid and that is the problem.

If player doesn't want to come that is fine but we need to be there with other top clubs when it comes to recruitment of best footballers and I am not so sure we are.

I think you're over-estimating Pepe's hold on where Mata would go. It's very naive to think that clubs need to bid to find out if a player wants to join too. I'd says clubs have the go ahead from the players agent the majority of the time before they do indeed bid.

Bottom line is Mata joined a club challenging for major honours. Asking him to join Liverpool in the summer would have been a sideways step for him.

[CJ]

I think your posts should be expressed through the medium of powerpoint

[cream]

Rafa was given time, so should Kenny. **** off with this thread, it's a ****ing embarrassment. Go support Newcastle you bunch of whoppers.

[Neil Young]

Not necessarily. He and Pepe are very good friends and I am sure he could have convinced him to come as El Cuntino did with Chelsea.

Anyway, my point was that we didn't even bid and that is the problem.

If player doesn't want to come that is fine but we need to be there with other top clubs when it comes to recruitment of best footballers and I am not so sure we are.

Exactly. You're not sure. I'm not sure. None of us are sure.

So let's all stop using guesses to support our point of view, eh?

[dom9]

Exactly. You're not sure. I'm not sure. None of us are sure.

So let's all stop using guesses to support our point of view, eh?

This approach could gain momentum.

[malg]

I think Kenny can take us forward BUT the purchase of Carroll and Downing may well be his downfall. Its a lot of money on very average players. as for Henderson he is still a young lad and things might happen for him.