Lucas

[RichC]

I guess looking at other teams has the style of midfielder moved on from that of the Lucas type player?

I like him myself but we do need more dynamism from the middle of the park

[Mattshark]

I guess looking at other teams has the style of midfielder moved on from that of the Lucas type player?

I like him myself but we do need more dynamism from the middle of the park

And Gerrard needs to show that dynamism.

Our results show a clear difference with Lucas than without him.

[RichC]

Again it comes back to relying on him too much for that, he's not 25 anymore.

Lucas does need to offer more with our attacking play that or we need to look at changing the midfield around to suit our style of play better.

[Mattshark]

Again it comes back to relying on him too much for that, he's not 25 anymore.

Lucas does need to offer more with our attacking play that or we need to look at changing the midfield around to suit our style of play better.

And that means we shouldn't expect him to play better?

Not really, we never expected that off previous DM's if Gerrard isn't doing well enough then he should be the one to make way because Lucas is a better holding midfielder than Gerrard.

The complaints being aimed at Lucas are for not doing things he has never really done, which is not very sensible.

[gentingfrmhell]

Again it comes back to relying on him too much for that, he's not 25 anymore.

Lucas does need to offer more with our attacking play that or we need to look at changing the midfield around to suit our style of play better.

agree. he should and can step up to provide more threat going forward.

[JohnDoe]

Apart from the breaking up of play and covering the back line. Not sure what else you are expecting him to do?

He's been very poor at this so far this season.

I do agree though that Gerrard has been worse.

[Mattshark]

He's been very poor at this so far this season.

I do agree though that Gerrard has been worse.

In what way? Examples?

[RichC]

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And that means we shouldn't expect him to play better?

Not really, we never expected that off previous DM's if Gerrard isn't doing well enough then he should be the one to make way because Lucas is a better holding midfielder than Gerrard.

The complaints being aimed at Lucas are for not doing things he has never really done, which is not very sensible.

Who said that Gerrard certainly needs to play better but we also need more from the rest of our midfield. We're not creating enough, and if Lucas is I
Incapable of doing that he should also be looked at.

And I've not complained about Lucas read what I wrote previously a very clear question asking if the modern day midfielder had moved on from the style of Lucas, I don't know but currently our midfield isn't working that well and he's part of that pairing.

It might be the shape of the team at the moment due to the full back issues

[RedReet]

He's been very poor at this so far this season.

I do agree though that Gerrard has been worse.

There is an article just 2 pages back detailing how now only had he been the best in the league this year, he's even improved on his own personal stats.

[RichC]

agree. he should and can step up to provide more threat going forward.

I think that is the modern day footballer these days, they need to be able to do it all to a certain extent .

[JohnDoe]

There is an article just 2 pages back detailing how now only had he been the best in the league this year, he's even improved on his own personal stats.

Teams have been tearing through our middle pretty easily, you just gotta let your eyes off the stat sheets and watch the games. Lucas hasn't been very good this season, both offensively and defensively.

[RedReet]

Teams have been tearing through our middle pretty easily, you just gotta let your eyes off the stat sheets and watch the games. Lucas hasn't been very good this season, both offensively and defensively.

Well that settles it then, can't argue with that.

[Mattshark]

Teams have been tearing through our middle pretty easily, you just gotta let your eyes off the stat sheets and watch the games. Lucas hasn't been very good this season, both offensively and defensively.

That is, to put it bluntly, utter bollocks.

[RichC]

Unfair to single Lucas out, the midfield dynamic hasn't worked that well the last couple of games but the defensive side of his game is and has been solid it's the offensive side that's really lacked.(midfield as a whole)

The chemistry of Lucas and Gerrard just doesn't seem right

[badpiggy]

I'm more than willing to be proven wrong but I just can't understand the concept of the centrality of a non scoring, non game changing, non crossing, short passing midfielder regardless of what it allows full backs to do.