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    Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
    In fairness, I think the majority of Liverpool fans do, and in general, most pundits have accepted his qualities over the last 24 months.
    Crucial member of the side, and TBH, there's no other deep lying midfielder playing in England that I'd want in my side ahead of him.
    Wouldn't mind him having an understudy in the squad though.

    and the highlighted bit must be our top priority. there will be occasional need to have a decent replacement/cover for lucas, and some games we might need to play two solid DMs to close out a game for the last 20 minutes or so.
    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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      Originally posted by Imy View Post
      If Lucas is that important why is there no viable alternative in the squad?
      Maybe because he is a world class player. He is the best tackler and ball winner in the league.

      Before his injury problems he was miles ahead of the second best one and he is close to getting back to his best.

      He is better playing the British game than the best British players. Says a lot of how excellent he is.

      IMO of course.
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      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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        Originally posted by Arn View Post
        Maybe because he is a world class player. He is the best tackler and ball winner in the league.

        Before his injury problems he was miles ahead of the second best one and he is close to getting back to his best.

        He is better playing the British game than the best British players. Says a lot of how excellent he is.

        IMO of course.
        I think the point he was making was if he is so important (which IMO he is) why have we got no back up to him?

        If he gets injured then who replaces him?

        And don't say allen...please

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          Originally posted by Imy View Post
          If Lucas is that important why is there no viable alternative in the squad?
          Not sure what you mean, what's your theory?
          If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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            Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
            In fairness, I think the majority of Liverpool fans do, and in general, most pundits have accepted his qualities over the last 24 months.
            Crucial member of the side, and TBH, there's no other deep lying midfielder playing in England that I'd want in my side ahead of him.
            Wouldn't mind him having an understudy in the squad though.
            Hmmmmm, not sure I agree.
            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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              Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
              I think the point he was making was if he is so important (which IMO he is) why have we got no back up to him?

              If he gets injured then who replaces him?

              And don't say allen...please
              IMO because the one we signed would know that he would sit on the bench a lot.

              There is very few teams out there that have two excellent defensive midfielders because they only play one and the one that play must be excellent or the team suffers a lot.

              The defensive midfielder must know the tactics almost 100% because he is the one that have as a job to protect the back four and to start up the attacks. He is the defensive brain.
              Stop the cyberhate


              from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

              Susan Black

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                Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
                I think the point he was making was if he is so important (which IMO he is) why have we got no back up to him?

                If he gets injured then who replaces him?

                And don't say allen...please
                Only chuck norris could come close.
                Glass Half Full

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                  Rafa of course used the defensive ball winner higher up the pitch to protect the playmaker and to win the ball as early as possible.

                  So you could use him in different ways but then you would need a Xabi type of player that is also a very good tackler and ball winner behind the ball winner.

                  In our case it would be Lucas in the Masch position and Gerrard in the Xabi one.
                  Stop the cyberhate


                  from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                  Susan Black

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                    Originally posted by Imy View Post
                    If Lucas is that important why is there no viable alternative in the squad?
                    I think that if the rest of the team were functioning as well as it is now then Allen would be a viable alternative (albeit not as good, but that should be fairly obvious as Lucas is starting and he isn't).
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                      Hmmmmm, not sure I agree.
                      Well, the majority is anything 50% in a straight good or bad question.

                      If more than 50% think he's not worth a starting place, then I would be really, really worried about our fan base.
                      Start smaller than that though..........if more than half of the Est. populace figure Lucas is not good enough to be a key member of our side, the site should be shutdown.
                      I think most on here appreciate his quality. Forget some throwaway match thread comments.
                      "I will make the boys feel your support"
                      Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                        Reading back, its good to see that I spotted the boys obvious talent during his early days at the club :



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                          Well, I said that he would become the best defensive midfielder in the league a couple of months or so after he played the first games for us.

                          I still thinking of all the and I got as replies.

                          Lucas is a top class leader on and off the pitch. A top class role model. A player we can be proud of playing for the club.

                          Mentality 10 out of 10.
                          Stop the cyberhate


                          from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                          Susan Black

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                            Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                            28-12-08, 05:06 PM Lucas is a Beast

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                              Kenny didn't believe in squad rotation and we payed the ultimate price for that ignorance when Lucas picked up that injury.

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                                Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
                                Well, the majority is anything 50% in a straight good or bad question.

                                If more than 50% think he's not worth a starting place, then I would be really, really worried about our fan base.
                                Start smaller than that though..........if more than half of the Est. populace figure Lucas is not good enough to be a key member of our side, the site should be shutdown.
                                I think most on here appreciate his quality. Forget some throwaway match thread comments.
                                I accept if you ask the majority of fans then they probably will agree that Lucas is a good player as there is a wealth of information to support this and to argue otherwise would make them look a bit stupid. However, the high volume of disparaging comments, intentional or otherwise (not exclusive to here) would suggest to me that a lot of people still don’t appreciate what he brings to the team.
                                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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