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Maybe he's not the same player or perhaps the 3-5-2 formation doesn't suit him or another possibility is that he needs some genuine competition for the DM role to get the best out of him, both Lucas and Gerrard are I feel too comfortable/complacent at the minute due to a lack of quality options in CM to challenge them.Originally posted by danperkins View PostNot same player since injury. Thoughts?
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It seems to be becoming fairly apparent. I thought a full pre-season might bring back to his old level but he still looks short of full fitness, looks a bit slower and not as robust. If you remember the way he took the fight to giants like Yaya Toure - and bossed them - it seems a long way off now. Shame. I still think he can do a job but I suspect we need to upgrade in that position.Originally posted by danperkins View PostNot same player since injury. Thoughts?Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Not an upgrade as such but another option.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostIt seems to be becoming fairly apparent. I thought a full pre-season might bring back to his old level but he still looks short of full fitness, looks a bit slower and not as robust. If you remember the way he took the fight to giants like Yaya Toure - and bossed them - it seems a long way off now. Shame. I still think he can do a job but I suspect we need to upgrade in that position.
Lucas doesn't have the mobility anymore hence he struggles when the game gets stretched, home games when he can sit in and we (largely) control the shape and tempo of the game are fine for him.
Arsenal showed that he can't deal (anymore) with quick, mobile players in and around him when there is a lot of space for them to work in.The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.
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I personally think it's down to his midfield partner not being as mobile as he once was, so Lucas is having to do the role of 1 1/2 men, so is getting caught out more. I think if he playe alongside Henderson, with Gerrard pushing forwards, then he could concentrate more on his own game and not have to cover as much ground, thus not getting caught out as much.
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Completely agreeOriginally posted by The Birdman View PostNot an upgrade as such but another option.
Lucas doesn't have the mobility anymore hence he struggles when the game gets stretched, home games when he can sit in and we (largely) control the shape and tempo of the game are fine for him.
Arsenal showed that he can't deal (anymore) with quick, mobile players in and around him when there is a lot of space for them to work in.
And yeah that's what I meant really, another one to lighten the load on Lucas. And hopefully someone with different attributes - power, bit of pace, more mobile etc.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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