Anyway, this is a side issue. Whatever the rules on qualifying for a national team, it's still based on more than 'best man for the job'. And te club / country comparison is still flawed.
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I tend to agree with the same nationality for the nation they're managing point of view if they're an established country on the international scene. There was absolutely no excuse for Scotland going down the foreign management route when there have always been so many half decent candidates to choose from.
England are the same, they seem to be consumed by zeitgeist and trying to please the average Joe Ingerland fan all the time. All the bollocks they spout after every tournament failure is laughable - the blueprint laid out by whichever moronic Chief Exec in order to win the World Cup is ripped up and whatever the populist newspapers are spouting in reaction to the inevitable failure seems to be followed verbatim.
Keegan failed so they need a foreign manager with a proven track record. Sven failed so they need to go back to basics and have a "root and tree" assessment of the national game which results in getting an Englishman in, who fails so they have to go and get an established manager with a proven track record, who is then portrayed as an imbecile because his english is suspect and the players don't understand, so they need and English manager who knows about the bulldog spirit, who fails..... ad infinitum.Comment
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Surely there is a question of how one defines nationality though? There are lots of instances of players swapping for convenience but equally some of those sound like they are predicated on the player have a more complicated identity than simply assigning them the nationality of the country where there were born would cover.Originally posted by Mostar View Post"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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Nationality could be defined as a personal thing.Comment
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Hmm. It's ony FIFA that complicate it. If you have a passport, or qualify for one, you can play for/ manage the country. That would be a nice and simple, and pretty reasonable, rule.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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You "both" take personal digs at him, you "both" complain about how deep we are with him in the team, you "both" call him a hoofer, you "both" say he offers "absolutely zero" in attack (might want to mix your use of words up there, schoolboy error), you "both" absolutely hate his organisational skills being mentioned, the majority of "both" your posts are about Carragher etc etc. I'm sure I could find about 30 clones of posts from the "pair" of you but I cant be bothered. I know you probably think you are under some master disguise but it's not really working very well.Originally posted by BootRoom View PostComment
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Carra: I'd never swap Suarez
Jamie Carragher has paid tribute to the 'fantastic' ability of Luis Suarez and insisted he would not swap him for any striker in the world.
The Uruguayan has been a revelation since joining Liverpool, proving himself to be a hit with both fans and teammates alike.
Carragher has been delighted by the No.7's overall impact and reckons he has shown just how good he is; day in, day out at Melwood.
Carragher said: "Sometimes you think you are signing a great player and you have different opinions about them.
"But it is only when you train with them every day that you know their strengths and weaknesses. I know there are great players in the league; Aguero has started well, so has Rooney, but I can honestly say I wouldn't swap him for anyone. I think he is fantastic."
Liverpool head into the international break sitting in fifth place after taking 13 points from seven matches.
Carragher remains clear on the club's overall objective this season but feels it is too early to have definitive targets.
He said: "At the start of the season you have the idea of winning the league but in the last few years we've finished sixth and seventh.
"For us to get into the top four we'll be pleased with that this season. But if it gets to Christmas and we are only three points behind Manchester United or Manchester City, we are going to say we want to win the league.
"I always change my opinion of what I want us to do, considering where we are. At this moment people are saying we are in a race with Spurs and Arsenal because we are a little bit away from City and Manchester United.
"But if we can catch them up over the next month or so (who knows). We play Manchester United next, so if we can get three points there, and then against City and Chelsea - you can change your opinion."
A league title remains the one winners medal on Carragher's to-do list.
He admits he would love to help the Reds top the Barclays Premier League at some point in the future but insists he would not swap the 2005 Champions League success for anything.
"I think the European Cup is the biggest thing you can win as a club player," he said. "It was a special European Cup final. It was something people will remember for a long time. I certainly wouldn't swap that."Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan clubComment
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Not really, it's on your passport. You could argue that someone could apply for residency in to a country different from the one on their passport, and then follow whatever criteria needed to become a citizen of that country, but they can't just elect to choose which country they feel a kinship too. IMO of courseOriginally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
FWIW, I don't think it really matters which country the coach comes from, but perhaps it should. Seems daft that players can't without providing some family ties but that coaches can. Where would you stop though? Would all staff in an international teams set up have to be of that nationality, right down to kit man etc?Comment
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when are the media going to realise that if you take out all the foreigners, the premier league would be ****ing ****.Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - SessegnonComment
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Was football **** in the 70s?Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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There's only 3 or 4 world class leagues in the world, and 200+ countries. It's obvious that the best leagues will have a large percentage of non-nationals and the premier league is not the only one. The media only really talk about it once England have crashed out of a tournament against a smaller country. It's not about the nationality of the players in the league, it's the lack of quality in the coaching at national level, IMO, and the general set-up. I bet that the spread of players in the England squad is more diverse than any other top European nation.Comment
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Was it as fascinating to watch as it is now?Originally posted by Kenneth View PostMember #1 of the Luis Suarez fan clubComment
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I've no idea, was it?Originally posted by Kenneth View PostBrandt - Keita - Van Dijk - SessegnonComment
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