Jamie Carragher

[Arn]

So you would've turned it down then? Cos you ignored that question.

I would have waited until after the takeover. I wouldn't acted like an egoistic idiot. Then I would know if the club wanted me to stay or not.

I would have acted in a fair way against the club.

[Craig_H]

So LFC offers you a contract, and you wouldnt have signed it.

Course.

[Robbie-fowler999]

Although he's not a legend, just an average utility man that thrived for a short spell within a defensive set-up, next to some very good players that made him look a lot better than he actually was.

what a stupid thing to say. a Player who has played more than 600 games for the club and performed in the toughest stages is not a legend. You sir have proved that you are a stupid child.

[Craig_H]

what a stupid thing to say. a Player who has played more than 600 games for the club and performed in the toughest stages is not a legend. You sir have proved that you are a stupid child.

He's got some idiotic irrational agenda against Carragher. He refuses to say what his problem actually is, preferring to spout ****e instead.

[RichC]

You still don't get it do you

He wasn't offered a new deal. Rafa didn't offer him a new deal. Rafa had the power to decide if Carra would stay or not. Purslow didn't had that power. Only after Rafa had gone then Purslow got the power to offer Carra a new deal.

If Rafa had stayed then it wouldn't been a contract offer to turn down.

The ONLY chance Carra had was to get rid of Rafa or else he would have been finished. That is one thing you never will understand or agree with.

You even defends the way he fixed his new contract and that is laughable to say the least. Even when he acts like a total egoistic idiot you defend him. When he piss all over the club you defend him. Totally laughable.

Carra is player that shouldn't play for us because the club and the manager didn't want him. Now he plays for us only because Purslow wanted him to do it.

Dear oh dear all of this agenda led conspiracy theory drivel that you come out with is now past the point of ****ing dull.

Give it a rest, the manager at LFC wanted him in the end, that was Roy Hodgson () not Rafa who was removed - rightly or wrongly, that though is what happened.

Why not leave the past for what it is and look forwards rather than banging on about this!

[GorbyPeacePrize]

We dont actually know anything about Carra 'getting rid' of rafa - more baseless Arn-type speculative bollocks.

As for the contract - cos you, in the same position, would've turned it down, yeah?

It's not the contract offer per se, it's the agitation that went on behind the scenes to secure it and the timing of the signing. Purslow didn't just amble up to Carragher right out of the blue and say: "Hey Jamie, d'ya fancy a nice big contract extension?".

Cue your usual "but, but, but, you don't know what went on behind the scenes" whining.

[Craig_H]

It's not the contract offer per se, it's the agitation that went on behind the scenes to secure it and the timing of the signing. Purslow didn't just amble up to Carragher right out of the blue and say: "Hey Jamie, d'ya fancy a nice big contract extension?".

Cue your usual "but, but, but, you don't know what went on behind the scenes" whining.

I heard that you once robbed a bank, behind the scenes.

Of course i have no evidence for this at all, but it must be true.

[RichC]

It's not the contract offer per se, it's the agitation that went on behind the scenes to secure it and the timing of the signing. Purslow didn't just amble up to Carragher right out of the blue and say: "Hey Jamie, d'ya fancy a nice big contract extension?".

Cue your usual "but, but, but, you don't know what went on behind the scenes" whining.

Now is this behind the scenes scenario 100% fact or is there a bit of poetic license here?

[Neil Young]

I would have waited until after the takeover. I wouldn't acted like an egoistic idiot. Then I would know if the club wanted me to stay or not.

I would have acted in a fair way against the club.

Did you consider the possibility that maybe his egoism could be an important reason why he has six million appearances for the one of the greatest clubs in world football and you have none?

[Robbie-fowler999]

All we know is that this season would have been Carragher's last one with us if Rafa had stayed and his only chance to stay was to get rid of Rafa.

Carragher is a Liverpool legend but he proved once and for all that he puts himself before the club if he had to make a choice.

The Carragher Liverpool heart thing is just bull****, he proved that when he signed his new deal the day before the takeover.

If he stays at the club after he finish playing then it is a disgrace simply because he don't deserve it. He can go on and play with his money instead. He loves them more than Liverpool FC.

You are also an idiot with all due respect. where are the facts in all of what you say ? you love Rafa so much so you should be able to provide facts like he likes to do.
We had good times under Rafa but ultimately he lead to his own downfall. You will counter probably with saying he lead us to our highest league finish blah blah. but The Fact is we Lost the league that season when it was in our hands because of his stubbornness and negative approach. He alienated himself from everybody and lost his job.

stupid cunts with all due respect

[GorbyPeacePrize]

I heard that you once robbed a bank, behind the scenes.

Of course i have no evidence for this at all, but it must be true.

If Joe Cole's mate's told you then that info is bang on the money.

[Arn]

Did you consider the possibility that maybe his egoism could be an important reason why he has six million appearances for the one of the greatest clubs in world football and you have none?

Of course it is a reason but only when he uses that ego on the pitch and not off the pitch.

[GorbyPeacePrize]

He's got some idiotic irrational agenda against Carragher. He refuses to say what his problem actually is, preferring to spout ****e instead.

You are obviously hard of learning; I've given you a convenient link to a thread that goes over a lot of it. If you don't like it then I guess it's just tough titty for you.

[Craig_H]

If Joe Cole's mate's told you then that info is bang on the money.

That probably sounded funny in your head.

As for your 'link' - you could very easily just say what the problem is, even if you DID post it before. But you choose not to. Obviously very convinced by the validity of your own opinion...

[Neil Young]

Of course it is a reason but only when he uses that ego on the pitch and not off the pitch.

Oh come on, mate, it's not that simple. It would be great if it were and of course some players are like that but not all can be all-round nice guys off the pitch and ultra-competitive on it.

I think you're being a bit too demanding of Carragher and Gerrard. They're not perfect, sure. They may even have not behaved well at all in some ways. But I don't think it's right to let unconfirmed, if plausible, speculations about recent behaviour outweigh the service they've given to the club (and yes, for which they've been amply rewarded, at the going, if obscene, rate).

Gorby not rating Carragher is a different argument (and one that seems incredibly one-eyed to me) but it's not fair to criticise them too much just because they're not saints.