Jamie Carragher

[Arn]

I see Arn's been sitting in the LFC boardroom again and is privvy to this information!!

x a million.

Rafa had the final say on every player in or out and on the contract situations. That was part of his five year deal. No fantasy, just plain facts. That has been covered to death by the media an in here.

That means that Rafa had the final say on if Carra would get a new deal and how long the deal should be.

[Drago]

How do you know he was not waiting until the end of the season? But then he got sacked and couldn't. Besides it would be right **** up if he did get rid of Carra. Since every other centre back he signed isn't a patch on a 33 year old who's well on the slide.

[Arn]

How do you know he was not waiting until the end of the season? But then he got sacked and couldn't. Besides it would be right **** up if he did get rid of Carra. Since every other centre back he signed isn't a patch on a 33 year old who's well on the slide.

Agger is miles better.

Rafa is the only reason to why Carra is considered a Liverpool legend, nothing more, nothing less. He was the one that started to play him in the middle and got the best out of him and improved him from average to a star.

[Drago]

You're deluded.

That is all.

PS. Agger couldn't defend his way out of a paper bag, and he'd probably get a paper cut on said bag and be out for the season.

[Arn]

You're deluded.

That is all.

PS. Agger couldn't defend his way out of a paper bag, and he'd probably get a paper cut on said bag and be out for the season.

whatever

[RedReet]

Playing a lot of games does not make him a legend.

He started in the first team as a midfielder and wasn't good enough. He played both full-back positions and wasn't good enough. Then he had a few decent but unspectacular seasons at CB

For about three years he's been a slow, plodding, hoofing liability and is certainly not good enough to be in the first team, other than as back-up

I've seen may great players over half a century in Liverpool's teams that deserve to be called legends. Carragher isn't within light years of deserving such an accolade. He's not even one of our best ever centre-backs, much less one of our best ever players

So he fooled Houllier, Rafa, Roy, Capello (to a lesser extent) and probably Kenny no doubt. Fooled the 40,000 Liverpool fans who sang about a team of Carraghers at matches, fooled the millions of fans that have Carragher on the back of their shirt, fooled even more millions that appreciate that he was a very good player on his day but accept he is not the same player and have been left with a sour taste after recent rumours, but still appreciate what he has achieved at the club.

But he didn’t fool you, no, no. Well done Sir.

[Exiled_red]

You're deluded.

That is all.

PS. Agger couldn't defend his way out of a paper bag, and he'd probably get a paper cut on said bag and be out for the season.

How do you defend your way out of a paper bag?

Surely you'd have to attack your way out

[Drago]

Smartarse.

[Craig_H]

How do you defend your way out of a paper bag?

Surely you'd have to attack your way out

[Fierce]

So he fooled Houllier, Rafa, Roy, Capello (to a lesser extent) and probably Kenny no doubt. Fooled the 40,000 Liverpool fans who sang about a team of Carraghers at matches, fooled the millions of fans that have Carragher on the back of their shirt, fooled even more millions that appreciate that he was a very good player on his day but accept he is not the same player and have been left with a sour taste after recent rumours, but still appreciate what he has achieved at the club.

But he didn’t fool you, no, no. Well done Sir.

[The Birdman]

My take on this is Carra was playing full back before Rafa came in. Rafa picked him at centre back and for a couple of seasons helped turn Carra into one of the best centre backs in the PL then things behind the scenes somehow turned sour and Carra played a part in getting rid of Rafa and replacing him with the worst manager in our recent history (50 years or so)
The point here is no other aspiring top side plays a 33 year old who was never blessed with pace in the first place yet we reward one with a 2 year 90k a week contract.

Carra has been a phenomenal servant for LFC and had spells as a top player but he isn't good enough to be first choice anymore

[Craig_H]

My take on this is Carra was playing full back before Rafa came in. Rafa picked him at centre back and for a couple of seasons helped turn Carra into one of the best centre backs in the PL then things behind the scenes somehow turned sour and Carra played a part in getting rid or Rafa and replacing him with the worst manager in our recent history (50 years or so)
The point here is no other aspiring top side plays a 33 year old who was never blessed with pace in the first place yet we reward one with a 2 year 90k a week contract.

Carra has been a phenomenal servant for LFC and had spells as a top player but he isn't good enough to be first choice anymore

Interesting point.

So who is first choice then? The hapless Skrtel? Or the slow-as-a-snail, cant-deal-with-the-ball-at-his-feet Kyrgiakos?

[elrichio86]

He shouldn't be first choice any more, at least not for a club with top 4 / title aspirations.

He's only our first choice because Agger and Skrtel haven't developed the way we had hoped.

[Craig_H]

So, given they havent developed in the way we hoped, he IS first choice.

[JHP]

All we know is that this season would have been Carragher's last one with us if Rafa had stayed and his only chance to stay was to get rid of Rafa.

Carragher is a Liverpool legend but he proved once and for all that he puts himself before the club if he had to make a choice.

The Carragher Liverpool heart thing is just bull****, he proved that when he signed his new deal the day before the takeover.

If he stays at the club after he finish playing then it is a disgrace simply because he don't deserve it. He can go on and play with his money instead. He loves them more than Liverpool FC.

If Cara's that scheming and clever he needs to get out of football and into politics

Think you lack just a little objectivity there.