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    Originally posted by Alex View Post
    nationalism  
    na·tion·al·ism [nash-uh-nl-iz-uhm, nash-nuh-liz-]
    noun
    1. spirit or aspirations common to the whole of a nation.
    2. devotion and loyalty to one's own country; patriotism.
    3. excessive patriotism; chauvinism.
    4. the desire for national advancement or political independence.
    5. the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.

    The one I highlighted is how I see it in relation to sport.
    See.

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      Well I guess we are both right then.
      *Except Michael, who died.

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        Impossible. This is the Internets.

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          Too be honest, I think we are talking about the same thing, but just different ends of the spectrum.

          *Except Michael, who died.

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              Fantastic gif....can I nick that after the WC is over and use it as my new av?
              "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                sure, go ahead mate

                It is great, however I could see a problem fitting it within the requirements here and still look acceptable.

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                  Thinking about this after watching the Dutch:

                  Not including Robben’s diving, do you see the ceiling for Raheem Sterling as being roughly Arjen Robben’s game?

                  Obviously, Raheem already passes better and has a touch more vision and is on his way to being the world class finisher on the break/ cutting in from the wing. But what is his ceiling? I think he has a way to go in terms of being a consistent game breaker and always making the right play (even when it doesn't work out). His head has gotten much, MUCH better, so I think he can surpass a player like Robben, but what does a maximized Raheem Sterling position/career look like?
                  "Our legacy begets an excellence that surpasses the particulars of who produces it." -- David Carr

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                    Originally posted by BrooklynRed View Post
                    Thinking about this after watching the Dutch:

                    Not including Robben’s diving, do you see the ceiling for Raheem Sterling as being roughly Arjen Robben’s game?

                    Obviously, Raheem already passes better and has a touch more vision and is on his way to being the world class finisher on the break/ cutting in from the wing. But what is his ceiling? I think he has a way to go in terms of being a consistent game breaker and always making the right play (even when it doesn't work out). His head has gotten much, MUCH better, so I think he can surpass a player like Robben, but what does a maximized Raheem Sterling position/career look like?

                    Multiple premier league and champions league career at Liverpool with the odd FA Cup and worthless cup thrown in too [emoji1][emoji106]

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                      Originally posted by BrooklynRed View Post
                      Thinking about this after watching the Dutch:

                      Not including Robben’s diving, do you see the ceiling for Raheem Sterling as being roughly Arjen Robben’s game?

                      Obviously, Raheem already passes better and has a touch more vision and is on his way to being the world class finisher on the break/ cutting in from the wing. But what is his ceiling? I think he has a way to go in terms of being a consistent game breaker and always making the right play (even when it doesn't work out). His head has gotten much, MUCH better, so I think he can surpass a player like Robben, but what does a maximized Raheem Sterling position/career look like?
                      If we manage him right and send him on loan 15 times, he might be as good as Andros Townsend. If we're lucky...
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                        Crazy talk

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                          Robben is an incredible player, if Sterling reaches half of his level we'll have some player on our hands. I think he's very very good, but I wouldn't compare him to the likes of Robben just yet. :-)

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                            Aye. Can't believe he had time for all them Lord of the Rings films and yet can still play at such a level. Especially after Reina hospitalised him that time.
                            3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                              Our new No.7 now that Teixeira has 31? According to pictures anyway.

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                                Can our new 23 was wearing 19

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