Jordan Henderson

[EwarWoo]

Meanwhile we play Russian roulette with their contracts trying to save a few pennies if the rumors are to be believed.

And its the players faults for not signing whatever we stick in front of them because we're totally Liverpool yo, the honor is theirs.

[banditos]

The main flaw in this is we're just another club to players.

You've misunderstood my point. The English clubs that can offer better wages will not also offer the captaincy and the opportunity to lead a big club back to glory (regardless of the club). Well, maybe the scum could offer that, but he'd be mad to go there .

[Vermilion]

You've misunderstood my point. The English clubs that can offer better wages will not also offer the captaincy and the opportunity to lead a big club back to glory (regardless of the club). Well, maybe the scum could offer that, but he'd be mad to go there .

Maybe he would be 'mad' in our eyes, but players constantly do these 'mad' things don't they.

They back themselves to do well and be part of any team they sign for. (of course insanely huge contracts makes backing themselves a tad easier to do though.)

[Roboklopp]

On a lighter note, anyone else think the hendo/Stevie hybrid looks a bit like Dudek?

[I, Ravel Morrison]

Henderson models his game so much after Gerrard. Another legacy Gerrard is leaving behind.

[SB]

I don't get it, what does he do exactly? A weird signing IMO i just don't see it. Much prefer Kuyt to start out right. Wish the lad the best of luck and hope he proves me very wrong but i just don't see him being a regular first teamer.

could be blowjobs. how else is he supposed to get into the team?

Not much really. He's good at passing the ball in tight spaces but I actually think Shelvey is a better player especially given the difference we paid for them

Just had a quick troll back over the first few pages.

I know it's the nature of the internet to make snap judgements but writing off Henderson after one game does strike me as a trifle premature.

The voice of reason.

[SB]

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[danperkins]

Just had a quick troll back over the first few pages.




The voice of reason.

Mine was the very first post in this thread

To be fair it was back in 2011

He looked an iffy signing for a time from the point of view of what was his identity?......but has been outstanding for last few seasons & flourished under Rodgers (who wanted rid at the start too). Turned into quality player no doubts.

[SB]

Mine was the very first post in this thread

To be fair it was back in 2011

He looked an iffy signing for a time from the point of view of what was his identity?......but has been outstanding for last few seasons & flourished under Rodgers (who wanted rid at the start too). Turned into quality player no doubts.

was just thinking the other day of how many ppl wanted rid of him in that 1st season so I thought I'd take a look. Dan's comment that Shelvey is a better player caused me to fall over laughing. No harm intended though bud.

[RedReet]

If a player/captain like Gerrard can be tempted, and only turn away from the darkside due to his attachment to the club, then it's possible.

If it ever cropped up, and he had to make a decision of that nature, i'd say it's 50/50 as to what he'd choose, i think that's a realistic outlook to take rather than a doom filled one.

At the end of the day he's a career footballer, not a boyhood fan of lfc, like others who've ran out on us!

The difference being that Gerrrard could have walked into any side in the world and if he'd joined Chelsea he'd have played every week, picking up regular trophies.

Henderson knows if he joined a club like City, there is every chance he'll be bench player and there isn't even a guarantee with trophies there at the minute and all the progress he's made here in the past few years will be for nothing as he'll be shipped to QPR when is contract is running low.

Not to mention, Gerrard was disillusioned with the direction the club was heading back then, at least now things are a bit more stable.

The issue isn’t people thinking Henderson or Sterling will sign for the shirt, or for any great love of the club as some have suggested, they will sign because they know it’s the best place for their development (providing we aren’t being completely unreasonable on the wage front).

[RedReet]

was just thinking the other day of how many ppl wanted rid of him in that 1st season so I thought I'd take a look. Dan's comment that Shelvey is a better player caused me to fall over laughing. No harm intended though bud.

I didn't have much to say about Henderson early on, certainly didn't criticise him, but I was annoyed that Kenny dropped Dirk to play Henderson as a winger.

[MrMichael]

People are making far too many assumptions about the contract negotiations without any real actual knowledge. The fact that probably the closest we have to being a world class talent, Coutinho, signed up last month shows that we aren't necessarily being as slack as people think we are.

Indeed looking back at the blinder played with Suarez in summer 2013, I'd say people aren't really showing the faith in how we operate that is possibly deserved. Does anyone really think FSG are silly enough to let a valuable player walk out for nothing if they can at all help it?

This seems to be a common theme with a lot of our contract negotiations if rumours are to be believed

And as we know from many years experience, most rumours are complete ****.

Imo we only have an established problem when a player we wanted to keep actually leaves because of our approach to contracts. Until that point there is no problem at all, and indeed in some cases ie. Sterling where we do have an idea what has been happening, we are doing precisely the right thing and demonstrating sensible financial management by negotiating rather than just giving his agent everything he has asked for

[RedRum]

On a lighter note, anyone else think the hendo/Stevie hybrid looks a bit like Dudek?

With a face like that we would have easily beaten Besiktas on penalties.

[RedReet]

People are making far too many assumptions about the contract negotiations without any real actual knowledge. The fact that probably the closest we have to being a world class talent, Coutinho, signed up last month shows that we aren't necessarily being as slack as people think we are.

Indeed looking back at the blinder played with Suarez in summer 2013, I'd say people aren't really showing the faith in how we operate that is possibly deserved. Does anyone really think FSG are silly enough to let a valuable player walk out for nothing if they can at all help it?



And as we know from many years experience, most rumours are complete ****.

Imo we only have an established problem when a player we wanted to keep actually leaves because of our approach to contracts. Until that point there is no problem at all, and indeed in some cases ie. Sterling where we do have an idea what has been happening, we are doing precisely the right thing and demonstrating sensible financial management by negotiating rather than just giving his agent everything he has asked for

Totally agree, although like others I did find Gerrard's comments a bit worrying at the time.

[The_weatherman]

People are making far too many assumptions about the contract negotiations without any real actual knowledge. The fact that probably the closest we have to being a world class talent, Coutinho, signed up last month shows that we aren't necessarily being as slack as people think we are.

Indeed looking back at the blinder played with Suarez in summer 2013, I'd say people aren't really showing the faith in how we operate that is possibly deserved. Does anyone really think FSG are silly enough to let a valuable player walk out for nothing if they can at all help it?



And as we know from many years experience, most rumours are complete ****.

Imo we only have an established problem when a player we wanted to keep actually leaves because of our approach to contracts. Until that point there is no problem at all, and indeed in some cases ie. Sterling where we do have an idea what has been happening, we are doing precisely the right thing and demonstrating sensible financial management by negotiating rather than just giving his agent everything he has asked for

I don't think it's common that clubs let their vice-captain's contract run down to 16 months though, and with Gerrard's comments regarding the contracts I think it's cause for concern, maybe not panic, but concern.

The fact we are having problems negotiating with Sterling will not go unnoticed as well and IMO we are in a delicate position since we can't offer consistent CL football, yet.

I think the club should place great emphasis on not letting contracts run down beyond the 24 months unless they intend to get rid or negotiate a short term contract. It can cause unrest in the squad, see Gerrard's comments.