Jordan Henderson

[kingfunk]

[Irishnev]

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[fabinho]

Phew, you had me worried there bud!

Was wondering what had changed so much in your life in the space of 4 hours!!

I've had a job offer in Saudi

[brightred]

I don't believe that anymore than you, I was just being facetious.

Phew, you had me worried there bud!

Was wondering what had changed so much in your life in the space of 4 hours!!

[fabinho]

“Secure his family’s future “ He’s on £10m a year.

I don't believe that anymore than you, I was just being facetious.

[Kenneth]

“Secure his family’s future “ He’s on £10m a year.

[fabinho]

Agree with all this



But I do think that its disgusting for him, specifically him, to go to what is absolutely head and shoulders the most abhorrent football association (by virtue of the country's beliefs) in the world

Surely he's free to play football anywhere, and surely the best place he can do that is the place that will secure his family's future financially? He's not endorsing the regime or its laws, he's going there to earn a trade by kicking a ball about.

He's done more for the LGBTQ community than most people, and going there is not him backing the state, he's merely doing the best financially for his wife and kids?

[Fierce]

Nah not sure i agree to be honest. These guys are professional footballers. I know we are all lfc fans, but they are professional. So altgough some players might dream of certain clubs, whether its lfc or real madrid or whoever, they are still professionals. Someone like Firmino or Mane will have an affinity to LFC having been here 7 or 8 years or whatever, they will buy into the club. But they were both born in some shed in the back arse of nowhere, probably lived on pennies during his childhood. If he has say 25m in the bank and this Saudi team can turn that into 60m before he retires, then fair ****s to him i say.

So why should Henderson be any different?? Just because he was born in the back arse of Sunderland instead???

I wont watch that ****e league to be honest but i dont begrudge them it. And people like Ruben Neves who went in their peak years. Do people think he really left a top side in Portugal to join Wolves for anything other than money???

Agree with all this

The thing with Henderson is that he portrayed himself as the great defender of the LGBTQ+ community. But that is because it is good for his brand ffs. Just like the likes of Beckham and Gary Neville have turned a blind eye to their "values" and taken the cash on offer with other opportunities.

But I do think that its disgusting for him, specifically him, to go to what is absolutely head and shoulders the most abhorrent football association (by virtue of the country's beliefs) in the world

[dizzycat]

I don't care too much for money
'Cause money can't buy me love

[fabinho]

Nah not sure i agree to be honest. These guys are professional footballers. I know we are all lfc fans, but they are professional. So altgough some players might dream of certain clubs, whether its lfc or real madrid or whoever, they are still professionals. Someone like Firmino or Mane will have an affinity to LFC having been here 7 or 8 years or whatever, they will buy into the club. But they were both born in some shed in the back arse of nowhere, probably lived on pennies during his childhood. If he has say 25m in the bank and this Saudi team can turn that into 60m before he retires, then fair ****s to him i say.

So why should Henderson be any different?? Just because he was born in the back arse of Sunderland instead???

I wont watch that ****e league to be honest but i dont begrudge them it. And people like Ruben Neves who went in their peak years. Do people think he really left a top side in Portugal to join Wolves for anything other than money???

The thing with Henderson is that he portrayed himself as the great defender of the LGBTQ+ community. But that is because it is good for his brand ffs. Just like the likes of Beckham and Gary Neville have turned a blind eye to their "values" and taken the cash on offer with other opportunities.

I don't see what the relevance of where they came from has to do with it? They haven't been in that place for quite some time. The definition of greed is always wanting more of something you already have an abundance of. Whether you think that is a bad thing or not is another conversation, but it is what it is here.

[Clapper]

👍👍👍

[frank the tank]

Nah not sure i agree to be honest. These guys are professional footballers. I know we are all lfc fans, but they are professional. So altgough some players might dream of certain clubs, whether its lfc or real madrid or whoever, they are still professionals. Someone like Firmino or Mane will have an affinity to LFC having been here 7 or 8 years or whatever, they will buy into the club. But they were both born in some shed in the back arse of nowhere, probably lived on pennies during his childhood. If he has say 25m in the bank and this Saudi team can turn that into 60m before he retires, then fair ****s to him i say.

So why should Henderson be any different?? Just because he was born in the back arse of Sunderland instead???

I wont watch that ****e league to be honest but i dont begrudge them it. And people like Ruben Neves who went in their peak years. Do people think he really left a top side in Portugal to join Wolves for anything other than money???

The thing with Henderson is that he portrayed himself as the great defender of the LGBTQ+ community. But that is because it is good for his brand ffs. Just like the likes of Beckham and Gary Neville have turned a blind eye to their "values" and taken the cash on offer with other opportunities.

[fabinho]

For the umpteenth time, he's in a financial position to make those choices. Most people can't. **** all that noise about setting his family up for life, if they're not set up already then us mere mortals are really ****ed.

100% on this. It drives me insane when I hear your average working man coming out with things like "well, its a short career" and "if another company offered to double your wages you'd go", well yes, of course I bloody would!

I'm an average man earning an average salary and whilst I'm still earning the sort of money which means I have to put money aside every month to pay for a decent holiday in a year or two's time, or I gulp when I see the garage bill to repair my 10 year old car, whilst putting a bit away each month to hopefully ensure I can retire at 65, (just covering the very basic costs of living), it means I need the money, as do 99% of us.

It's pure greed, nothing more, nothing less. Its up to them, their choice, but **** me, have the sense to call it out for what it is.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I think what this just shows is that these guys are largely just cliched dumb footballers. They're good at kicking a ball around on some grass. They should not be looked at as role models (other than how to train and be in top physical condition) or political activists, despite them often being held in such regard.

They will do whatever makes them the most money in their short careers. They have their management and PR marketing teams behind them telling them exactly what to do and how to progress their careers. Like the majority of this world, it's all manufactured for 'likes' and 'lols' on social media. They'll jump on whatever bandwagon they're told to.

Looking up to them as these higher-beings is only going to lead to disappointment.

For the most part yes to your post, but you do have guys who do a lot of good stuff and stay somewhat under the rader so that it is not PR fluff.

Andy Robertson and Roy Keane spring to mind on that front. With the latter continuing to back certain causes long after his football days ended and turning up in person to muck in. Keane only says yes to cameras if the organisation asks for it so they get some publicity.


Robertson does a lot for foodbanks and has done that ever since he signed his first pro contract in Scotland. He is involved with the same in Liverpool and, like Roy Keane in Cork, he will turn up as a volunteer with no social media heads to take pics and do a full shift.


Rashford I think is a good role model in many ways for young kids too as I get the impression what he champions is personal to him and not done to look good.


Then you have guys like Mane and Koulibaly who use a % of their wages since tuirning pro to help the villages they came from and who have set up funds so that aid continues after they retire.

Role models should be judged by their continued actions. Some footballers are genuine role models but like with any walk of life most are not true role models.

[Fosterbloke]

I think what this just shows is that these guys are largely just cliched dumb footballers. They're good at kicking a ball around on some grass. They should not be looked at as role models (other than how to train and be in top physical condition) or political activists, despite them often being held in such regard.

They will do whatever makes them the most money in their short careers. They have their management and PR marketing teams behind them telling them exactly what to do and how to progress their careers. Like the majority of this world, it's all manufactured for 'likes' and 'lols' on social media. They'll jump on whatever bandwagon they're told to.

Looking up to them as these higher-beings is only going to lead to disappointment.

Absolutely, I look at this sport as nothing more than entertainment. Even if we sold our entire squad and had to buy 24 players over the summer (totally improbable of course), I'd just go with it, it's great fun!

I'm not upset over Henderson's move - it makes no material difference (MTB parts notwithstanding) to me but it did to minorities he's helped support.

But Harv is right, they're all rich cunts.