Jordan Henderson

[Harv]

I think what this just shows is that these guys are largely just cliched dumb footballers. They're good at kicking a ball around on some grass. They should not be looked at as role models (other than how to train and be in top physical condition) or political activists, despite them often being held in such regard.

They will do whatever makes them the most money in their short careers. They have their management and PR marketing teams behind them telling them exactly what to do and how to progress their careers. Like the majority of this world, it's all manufactured for 'likes' and 'lols' on social media. They'll jump on whatever bandwagon they're told to.

Looking up to them as these higher-beings is only going to lead to disappointment.

[Fosterbloke]

Those who think he is a hypocrite for saying all those positive things about women's rights and LGBTplus rights and then taking the Saudi shilling need to be absolutely sure they are not in a glass house before they start throwing stones.

For the umpteenth time, he's in a financial position to make those choices. Most people can't. **** all that noise about setting his family up for life, if they're not set up already then us mere mortals are really ****ed.

[Fierce]

It's not exactly vitriol

It is from one specific bellend

Henderson is 33 and has presumably been told that, having spent best part of £100m on players in his position; he might well not play all that much this season

I've absolutely zero problem with him wanting to move to be able to continue playing at his age

Of course where he's gone to, given his previous form re human rights is pretty disgusting; but I can't imagine he was exactly inundated with offers

[rudedog]

If he didn't put in a transfer request then do we have to pay up some of his outstanding contract.

No, he's getting paid three times as much with his new contract

[baitman]

If he didn't put in a transfer request then do we have to pay up some of his outstanding contract.

[rudedog]

It's not exactly vitriol

[Paul12]

I don't get all the vitriol on this thread. It seems most think he needed to leave about now. Yes we gave him a further two years, but we are out of that obligation with £12m in our hands. Why don't we just move on.

Those who think he is a hypocrite for saying all those positive things about women's rights and LGBTplus rights and then taking the Saudi shilling need to be absolutely sure they are not in a glass house before they start throwing stones.

[Liverpool]

A combination of the two makes most sense, also done 10 years and maybe had enough, won the lot etc

[Mark79]

He has had talks with other clubs though I think?

Maybe there was personal stuff too. But the fact the club stopped making ‘Edwards’ type decisions a good 2 years before he left, followed by the departures of a slew of his recruitment/data guys and scouts all adds weight to the idea that he and his department weren’t being listened to anymore imo.

[Liverpool]

I believe Edwards left for personal reasons, still not took a job two years later.. still could have been chaos behind the scenes as well

[Mark79]

Pretty disgraceful not to hear a word from the Hypocrite.

I’m sure we will when it’s all official.

[Mark79]

Isnt it the catalyst for Edwards leaving? Wasnt that suggested? That he was overridden on something like this and decided it was time to look elsewhere?

Apparently so. This a number of other similar disagreements.

In nut shell, Edwards wanted to replace aging/regressing players before they went downhill, but Klopp/Lijnders wanted to stick with what we had and Klopp had the final word.

Hence a bunch of contract extensions and not so many new signings.

[red g]

Pretty disgraceful not to hear a word from the Hypocrite.

[Harv]

Isnt it the catalyst for Edwards leaving? Wasnt that suggested? That he was overridden on something like this and decided it was time to look elsewhere?

In hindsight it seems like it may have been

[Doc_Piptorious]

If you keep using "Al Hendo", ill do an auto word replace to "My friend, confidant and partner in all of lifes adventures Jordan Brian Henderson"