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    Feel sorry for him, he's really struggling since the injury. He doesn't seem as mobile and passing wise he's mostly gone into his shell.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      He's symptomatic of one of our problem areas - leadership.

      He just doesn't have the persona in terms of quality, character, or both, to lead the club. The same applies with Milner.

      With Grujic able to get forward too, Can is the only deep, 'defensive' player. With Wijnaldum a forward thinking player, Henderson appears to be being remodeled into a deep playmaker (excuse the Football Manager terminology). At best, he's a squaddie, but I maintain since the back end of last season, he doesn't have the specialist qualities needed for a Klopp system.

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        It's been over a year and I'm still in shock that this guy is the club captain. I suppose it's symbolic really of how far this once great club has fallen that Jordan Henderson is our captain.
        http://www.youtube.com/user/LFCHistory?feature=mhee

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          One of his worst ever games for us today. This is painful.

          [ame]https://twitter.com/f1rmino/status/767084760879562752[/ame]
          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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            Aye, he was ****ing awful again, why Klopp picked him ahead of Can is a mystery.
            Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
              Feel sorry for him, he's really struggling since the injury. He doesn't seem as mobile and passing wise he's mostly gone into his shell.
              I think it's also the role he is playing, which he isn't suited to, the position he played in 13-14 suited him, but not sure if he can play that role now due to the effect or the injuries or due to the change in players around him.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                He was ok last week.
                Are we winning?

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                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  One of his worst ever games for us today. This is painful.

                  https://twitter.com/f1rmino/status/767084760879562752
                  Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                  Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                    One of his worst ever games for us today. This is painful.

                    https://twitter.com/f1rmino/status/767084760879562752


                    That's horrific.
                    Modifying post.

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                      RTs appreciated?

                      Wha?
                      Oh I don't know.

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                        Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                        I haven't seen the game, but apparently we had something like 80% possession.

                        Why the DM talk? I don't understand why you'd need one if the other team don't have the ball.
                        Because when you are counter attacked you need someone who holds positions and breaks up the counter attacks

                        To me it's horses for courses but against lesser teams we should play a DM otherwise we are wide open to counter attacks
                        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                          Because when you are counter attacked you need someone who holds positions and breaks up the counter attacks

                          To me it's horses for courses but against lesser teams we should play a DM otherwise we are wide open to counter attacks
                          I don't think that you need a DM as such, you just need CMs who have an awareness of the situation and don't over commit. Our current CMs don't really have any defensive awareness. I think that the our team switches between 'attack mode' and 'defence mode' and when in one of these modes they have no awareness or thought about the other side of the game, it's as if we only ever play attack vs defence in training and the players never think about the transition between the two.
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                            **** thats bad, like Klopp just picked a fan out of the stand and invited him to play, it was a bit like he'd been lifting weights in the morning, or was hungover, he needs to be benched while he gets his **** in order.
                            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                              Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                              I don't think that you need a DM as such, you just need CMs who have an awareness of the situation and don't over commit. Our current CMs don't really have any defensive awareness. I think that the our team switches between 'attack mode' and 'defence mode' and when in one of these modes they have no awareness or thought about the other side of the game, it's as if we only ever play attack vs defence in training and the players never think about the transition between the two.
                              I don't think those players exist and if they do they are already at top clubs

                              This is why I think we have to play a dedicated holding player particularly in games like that
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                Henderson's thinking time is a big issue playing deeper. BY the time he has got the ball under control looked about and decided what he's going to do with it the moment to pass forward with any effect has passed.

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