Brendan Rodgers

[captainfog]

Does anyone here have the faith he will be able to turn this round?

That's not intended as a leading question, I'm just trying to gauge common opinion.

No chance. He might get lucky and string a few results together but the foundations of any recovery will be built on sand and they'll be a spectacular implosion like there was last season.

The longer he hangs around the more damage he does. Get rid of him now.

[Rich]

No chance he can turn this around long term, he might in the short term stumble upon a system which works.

[Alex]

Don't think he can now. Hes not shown that he will adapt his system, so I cant think that he will now.

[Slinky Skills]

No, not now.

[Lecter]

From F365

Forget all the psudeo-intellectual nonsense talk of philosophy, those 90 minutes on Saturday showed you don’t know what you’re doing, silly man. It’s time to go now, Brendan.

Come on, that’s enough now, Brendan. It’s stopped being funny.

There was a moment about 18 months ago when it was hard to tell if Brendan Rodgers was a genius or a clown, or possible a genius clown. He’s been a lot of fun for us, but now there’s something dreadful and crushing about watching him go about his job, endlessly dressing up ineptitude as intellectual philosophy.

Many managers get a period of luck in their career, a period when they can do no wrong. It’s usually not because they’re doing anything massively different, more often it’s because a couple of players hit good form, or you accidentally hit on a new formation and the luck goes your way for a bit. Brendan had his luck with Luis Suarez but managed to convince himself that it wasn’t luck, it was an expression of his own brilliance – a combination of exceptional analysis, man-management and deep thinking.

To talk about football in the way that Brendan Rodgers talks about football, you have to be successful, otherwise you look stupid. Rodgers’ inability to match his pseudo-intellectualising with results says one thing and one thing only: I am deluded and I don’t know what I’m doing. Okay, so that’s two things.

And it was obvious from the way Liverpool played at Old Trafford that fundamentally he doesn’t know what he’s doing, unless being awful is his aim. Daniel Storey masterfully highlighted all of the flaws in Liverpool’s play in 16 Conclusions – the shocking thing was that Rodgers couldn’t even see any of this before, during, or after the match. I genuinely believe he is more occupied with thinking up a metaphysical riddle to utter at the post-match conference, solely in order to look brainy to thick people and to himself.

Some managers know when they’re lost, they know when they’ve signed the wrong players, they know when their tactics are hopeless and wrong, but Rodgers doesn’t. He still thinks he’s bloody great. Maybe he thinks he’s creating a hybrid physical expression of mathematics and poetry. He is certainly prone to talking like a man who is divorced entirely from reality. It is as though everything he says has been generated by a piece of software as a satire on the way air-headed, white-toothed motivational speakers go on, dressing up simple things in long-winded ways, so as to make out there’s more wisdom to it. Brendan, nobody is impressed anymore.

Even when saying really basic things about a footballer, he makes it sound weird. Talking of playing Danny Ings he said: “He’s a threat to the goal.” Why doesn’t he just say he’s a goal threat? Or that he might score. Ings isn’t a threat to the goal – his threat is to score a goal. I know it’s not a big thing, but such embellishment is illustrative of how his mind works. “I’m not one who chops and changes the philosophy – that’s something inherent in you,” is more classic Rodgers nonsense. First, it’s not true, for all the reasons Daniel says in 16 conclusions, but read the sentence again – it doesn’t actually make any sense. It should read “I don’t chop and change my philosophy – that’s something inherent in me,” and even then, you might argue the last two words are superfluous.

His whole aim with such uncomfortable, clunky expressions is to aggrandise himself. He refers to ‘the philosophy’ as though it is a grand concept like Marxism or quantum physics. And by saying that not chopping and changing is some sort of inherent character trait is just obvious nonsense. How you decide your team will play football is not a trait you’re given at birth. And anyway, whatever your philosophy is and from wherever it derives, if it leads to performances like Saturdays, it’s manifestly the wrong bloody philosophy.

But it’s all so typical of the man. His whole Liverpool tenure has been defined by all of these ridiculous hostages to fortune. He’s the only man in football who manages to put one foot in a bucket whilst slipping on a banana skin and shooting himself in the other foot.

Being thoughtful and clever is good, but only if you ARE thoughtful and clever. If you’re not thoughtful and clever but have merely just convinced yourself that you are – because everyone else you know has the intellect of gravy – you just end up making a fool of yourself. You’d think he’d have realised this by now, but he hasn’t. And he hasn’t because he believes in it and doesn’t realise that what surely used to be a pseudo-intellectual affectation has now become an entire consciousness.

His failures are well documented and extensive but it boils down to this: Brendan, look at the team, look at who they are and how they play. That tells us everything about you. Saturday told us everything about you. You can’t dress it up as a philosophy and you’re making yourself look stupid by doing so.

I wish you were actually just talking rubbish in order to get the sack and a huge pay-off. But you’re not, are you? You believe in the nonsense.

Brendan, it’s over or, to put it in terms you might better understand, the project demands a more progressive, dynamic individual, vis-a-vis interpersonal and inspirational one-on-one motivational and organisational skills, on both a macro and a micro level…and because of playing Dejan Lovren too, you big divvy.

John Nicholson

http://www.football3...thing-about-you

[Reece]

Not for me. Thanks for a great 13/14 season, but cheerio now. All the best

[Buzzo]

No.

He needed a really strong start to the season. Performances and results. We managed a couple of reasonably lucky wins, but we've only performed for 45 minutes in 5 games, and that being generous by excluding the debacle of last seasons run in and the loss to Villa in the FA cup semi. We've lost to some utter ****e in the last 20 odd games.

[chadrtc]

Nope - once support for a manager erodes to this level, it can only end one way.

I suspect this will be drawn out for quite some time though - he'll quite likely last the whole season, barring a complete disaster.

I hate it when it gets like this - he's not doing well enough to keep his job, but the snide nastiness with which some approach it makes me very uncomfortable.

[Slinky Skills]

Nope - once support for a manager erodes to this level, it can only end one way.

I suspect this will be drawn out for quite some time though - he'll quite likely last the whole season, barring a complete disaster.

I hate it when it gets like this - he's not doing well enough to keep his job, but the snide nastiness with which some approach it makes me very uncomfortable.

He won't last the whole season, no chance. In fact I'm confident enough to say he will be gone if we lose our next match or two based on how much hatred there is for him at this present time. JWH will be fully aware of this.

[Lecter]

Nope - once support for a manager erodes to this level, it can only end one way.

I suspect this will be drawn out for quite some time though - he'll quite likely last the whole season, barring a complete disaster.

I hate it when it gets like this - he's not doing well enough to keep his job, but the snide nastiness with which some approach it makes me very uncomfortable.

The bitterness from the stands will only increase imo

I dont hate Rodgers, I struggle to listen to him and dont thinks hes up to the job but beyond that dont feel anything more than that

This season will be very much like Houlliers last season in charge, I felt before that season that we should have jettisoned Houllier and felt the same this summer just gone

Be interesting to see how things go but its inevitable he will be leaving the club (sooner or later) because he has no chance of turning this round imo

[chadrtc]

He won't last the whole season, no chance. In fact I'm confident enough to say he will be gone if we lose our next match or two based on how much hatred there is for him at this present time. JWH will be fully aware of this.

Nah, loads were saying he was two games from the boot for most of last season when there was little evidence to back it up. I think they'll give him the whole season.

[RedSpartan]

Does anyone here have the faith he will be able to turn this round?

That's not intended as a leading question, I'm just trying to gauge common opinion.

Not a chance. We are looking more and more clueless.

Rodgers is looking totally clueless, and its going to harm some of the younger players like Clyne and Gomez in their development.

People can say we have some tough away games coming up, Everton, Spurs, Chelsea, but can we honestly say that when we play the mid to lower placed team that we are just going to turn it on and comfortable beat them?

Any organised team will contain us, and cause us a a lot of problems. There is no solidity about the team. You just don't feel we have turned a corner, and that OK we lost, but its going to come right. Shipping 6 goals in the last two games after we were looking kinda solid is very worrying.

It is going to be a very long, and frustrating season. Lovern will cost him his job if he persists in playing him. The arrival of Klopp is getting closer with ever minute Lovern plays, and the to be honest the sooner the better. We need a new approach and fresh ideas, because Brendan is out of them, and soon he will be out of time.

[ronanm]

He won't last the whole season, no chance. In fact I'm confident enough to say he will be gone if we lose our next match or two based on how much hatred there is for him at this present time. JWH will be fully aware of this.

I am working off the basis he will get until the end of the season. That's worst case as I see it.

[The_weatherman]

I am working off the basis he will get until the end of the season. That's worst case as I see it.

Well, that should pretty much free up weekends, I can't watch anymore of this garbage, I get too wound up. Maybe I'll start following something else, what's the best NFL team?

[Assassin]

Well, that should pretty much free up weekends, I can't watch anymore of this garbage, I get too wound up. Maybe I'll start following something else, what's the best NFL team?

Redskins