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    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
    The problem with BR is he has a system and a philosophy in mind but he has no ****ing clue how to get there

    He hasn't signed players this summer to suit 4-3-3 yet that is what he's going with

    Also the passing possession style and pressing game has all but disappeared

    Further more it could be argued that in our best season under BR we achieved success by not playing 4-3-3 and by being a more counter attacking side
    this is spot on

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      Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
      Yep, but Sturridge was also incredible that season.
      Suarez made everyone play better, Without Suarez Rodgers is making everyone play worse. We do have some talent in our team, it maybe an inbalanced squad but a good manager could get us firing again.
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      Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

      Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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        Might as well join the club

        it's the performances that has got me worried over the actual results. We lack leadership, bottle, hunger, this before we even get to actual footballing reasons we are poor, lack of pace, width, penetration and speed of moving ball. Then the same mistakes being made over and over again. Mignolet still has not learned how to deal with the ball at his feet, we have two centre halves who don't want the ball at their feet,must we insist on trying to play triangles between the three of them. We consistently ask players to play/do something they clearly struggle with.......it's like a bad version of my old Sunday league team, we once had a lad playing right wing who only had one nromal hand and a little beadle hand, trying to take quick throw ins. No joke

        I think back, every big game under Rodgers we have bottled. Then there is games people always point to like stoke away 6-1, or west ham home the other week, or aston villa semi final...but for me crystal palace at home last home game of the season was as bad a result as any.......doesn't matter who the manager has been, how good or crap we have been playing or whether we have something to play for or not, the last home game of the season we've always tried. Win lose or draw we've had a go. Palace last season we just rolled over.

        Apart from arsenal, were we played well for 45 mins then showed some bottle the second half, we've not put in a good performance in like 15-20 games.....and I'm starting to think that arsenal performance is as much down to players on the day going for it rather than so,er master plan from Rodgers.

        I've mentioned this loads before, Saturday was the same. I know with five mins of kick off now, every game how we will do. If we come out quick,sharp, good touches, slick passing, in the first five mins, then we go in and play well.....but if we start slowly, a bit cold, a little sloppy with one or two touches or passes then the whole team seems to just fold and we seem to have zero way of getting out of the rut during the game.

        To sum up I'm firmly in the sack him now camp. I can't see him turning it round, it looks like he's lost it....it being the players and the plot. And the longer it continues the worse it will get.....at best he might get a bit lucky with a couple of players finding some form and a few results going out way, but there is no signs that he is capable of turning this squad into a top 4 side.
        i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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          Should of gone last season. Will also say I didnt watch the UTD game since I cant stand watching us play like rubbish. I have no problem with us losing when trying, but we're major **** and its just not fun. Plus Coutinho wasnt playing. He's the only thing I really like when I watch this team.

          I actually didnt watch half of the season Hodgson was in charge also. ****ed if I'm staying up till 2-4am to watch insipid performances.

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            ". We consistently ask players to play/do something they clearly struggle with.......it's like a bad version of my old Sunday league team, we once had a lad playing right wing who only had one nromal hand and a little beadle hand, trying to take quick throw ins. No joke"







            Sack him now defo. No faith that we'll replace him with quality tho.
            3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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              Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
              Yes, but we still did much better than this when he was absent through rare injury or (more common) suspension. We had a system at the time that got the best out of lots of our players at the time, not just Suarez. He just added the magic and nearly won us the league.
              This is what I was clinging to for most of last season, we played some brilliant football when Suarez wasn't playing, we battered Newcastle 6-1 without him amongst some other good results but we always had Sturridge so him missing too really hurt us. It's more than that though, clearly Brendan has changed. I don't know what's happened to him but he's completely abandoned that type of play and it's made us much worse. Maybe the the critics of his defensive ability got to him and he wanted to make us more solid but he's ended up make us sterile up front and we still can't defined for ****.
              Originally posted by chadrtc View Post
              Nah, loads were saying he was two games from the boot for most of last season when there was little evidence to back it up. I think they'll give him the whole season.
              It was reported last season that FSG wanted to sack him in December but Ian Ayre talked them out of it.

              The only way he gets the full season is if he keeps us in the hunt for top 4.

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                Originally posted by G View Post
                This is what I was clinging to for most of last season, we played some brilliant football when Suarez wasn't playing, we battered Newcastle 6-1 without him amongst some other good results but we always had Sturridge so him missing too really hurt us. It's more than that though, clearly Brendan has changed. I don't know what's happened to him but he's completely abandoned that type of play and it's made us much worse. Maybe the the critics of his defensive ability got to him and he wanted to make us more solid but he's ended up make us sterile up front and we still can't defined for ****.

                It was reported last season that FSG wanted to sack him in December but Ian Ayre talked them out of it.

                The only way he gets the full season is if he keeps us in the hunt for top 4.
                Why not sack Ayre as well then? Wonder if he had some input in Rodgers getting this season as well.
                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                  Originally posted by red g View Post
                  Suarez made everyone play better, Without Suarez Rodgers is making everyone play worse. We do have some talent in our team, it maybe an inbalanced squad but a good manager could get us firing again.
                  Possibly but hard to say for sure, or at least to what degree since we haven't seen a fully fit Sturridge since Suarez left.

                  What's for sure is that Sturridge was fantasic for his first 18 months and Suarez' ban didn't seem to effect his form one bit.

                  I think he deserves all credit for his own level of performance and that his contribution has been slightly unfairly overlooked or attributed too much to Suarez due to him being on another level.

                  Agree with you about the team, we've enough good players that with the right formation and selection we could improve very quickly.
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                    if he plays:

                    ----------------------------------MIGNOLET------------------------------------

                    CLYNE--------SKRTEL--------------------------SAKHO---------------MORENO

                    --------------------------------EMRE CAN--------------------------------------

                    ------------HENDERSON----------------------MILNER-------------------------

                    ------------------------------COUTINHO---------------------------------------

                    ---------------BENTEKE-----------------------INGS---------------------------

                    until sturridge gets back to replace Ings, then he has half a chance in my view. If he doesnt go down fighting, then he deserves the bullet in my view....

                    If I see Lovren too many more times......or Ings on the wing or whatever, then for me he is a clown.....

                    I hope he turns it around.......but i don't think he will

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                      Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                      Does anyone here have the faith he will be able to turn this round?

                      That's not intended as a leading question, I'm just trying to gauge common opinion.
                      No. I think that I've probably been quite naive up until now in thinking that he cand

                      That said, he is still not able to play his 20+ goal a season striker and 5 games isn't enough time for his signings to gel

                      I don't think he's gone anytime soon
                      I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                      There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                        It's not about his signings it about him playing the wrong formation and players out of position. He's lost the plot and there's no way back.

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                          Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                          Does anyone here have the faith he will be able to turn this round?

                          That's not intended as a leading question, I'm just trying to gauge common opinion.
                          He's a very patchy manager, we have very good spells and very bad ones, and seem to flip between the two, more than any manager I can recall. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we did go on a good run, but it would be followed by another bad one and overall average out at well, average.

                          But I don't expect us to do any better that 5th or 6th over the season
                          Last edited by Exiled_red; 14-09-15, 06:57 PM.
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                            Should have been rinsed in the summer (obvious to most except FSG). It will be another lost season, I'm afraid.

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                                Yeah he should go asap cos no matter who we're playing we can't be confident of any sort of result (noone could honestly claim surprise if Carlisle beat us for example, nevermind Europe and the league), we can't come back from behind, we can't defend a lead, we have players who continue to make the same mistakes over and over again (Skrtel/Lovren?Mignolet) and completely unsettle us especially now that we seem to be going back to the slow ponderous ****-around-with-the-ball-at-the-back that was ruinous last season, we don't have any hard ****ers who intimidate oppostion players especially midfielders (Henderson is a big strong athlete, not a nasty ****er), we have players playing out of position constantly and looking hopeless, we have a £30M striker who seems to be left a minimum of 30-40 meters away from the nearest LFC player, we don't press teams at all yet we don't counterattack with pace either... And all of these things seem to be down to the manager because only he can change all the things I've mentioned. And I haven't said anything about him and bull**** etc cos thee bull**** is fine when you're winning. And we have NEVER won a crunch match under BR. Not to mention all the horrible negative stats we're amassing at the moment.
                                Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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