Brendan Rodgers

[MosRay]

Hasn't got a ****ing clue

League 2 opposition

1 striker

"I KNOW 3 AT THE BACK"

Genius mate.. Well played.. Now, **** off.

I'll add to that, only 1 player started tonight who he didn't buy.. Skrtel.. We have ****ing nothing after £300m(guess) spent! Nobody beats a man, no fluid movement. No plan of attack, no clue.

I was never in the Rodgers out camp, just had a toe in the water, so to speak.. But christ on a bike, this guy is way out of his depth it's unreal. I also question the ambition of our current owners if they don't replace him sooner than Christmas, because taking a risk until then the season could be over already over barring the FA cup, of course.

Our current group of players are not ****, they are just as confused as us.. round pegs square wholes all over the park, not set system, no direction, just facking rudderless.

The game last night was awful, if he cannot get this group of players beating a 2nd division team at Anfield, then he needs to go.. because he'll not turn this season around...

I hate fcuking off managers early season, but friggin hell it's not early season is it we have had the same **** for almost his entire time, barring 13/14 - which I have to know admit was never down to him, but the desire to win by those on the pitch.

I remember him saying this wasn't the plan just yet, facking right it wasn't he was a shocked as us that this was happing.. The same **** that said it doesn't matter if you lose, it's matters how you lose.. Yeah right if you lose with fight, guts and desire...Just go you fraud..

[Exiled_red]

How do you work out Klopp and Ancellotti as being the wrong men?

I'm not saying that they are I'm saying at this point they are probably the main people that are out of work, but who is to say that they would want to come here? For all we know FSG could have sounded them out about the possibility of taking over (it makes sense to do this before sacking the current manager) - if they aren't interested in the job then what are we to do? It could be that it is worth waiting it out until the right man comes available.

[Exiled_red]

I don't understand the glee that some people feel about sacking a manager. All I feel is sadness. Here we go again, another season written off in transition, another manager fallen by the wayside, another brave new dawn. Don't get me wrong, Brendan's reign currently has the same feeling as the end-days of Hodgson, and if we don't go on a miraculous 10 game winning streak now he'll be gone and rightly so. He can't say he wasn't given a fair crack at it after 3 full seasons and plenty of backing.

I think we need to question how we're run as a club though, with absentee owners and no clear idea of what we are as a team. We've lurched from Hodgson long ball to Dalglish pragmatism, to Rodgers...whatever the **** it is that we're trying to do now. Players have been signed for years for positions that the manager doesn't require, (e.g. if you've already got Coutinho then why waste £50m on Lallana and Firmino to play no.10? If you're not going to play with wingers then why waste £20m on Markovic?).

I think we need to commit to what we want the club to be on the pitch, and make our management and playing decisions around that. Personally I'd like to us commit to a pass-and-move style, with workers all over the pitch, pressing teams high up the pitch and moving the ball quickly in possession. But whatever we want to be, we should focus on that, and not sign players just because the stats say they're undervalued, sign them because they are "Liverpool players" who will slot into our club style. That also means not signing players who are very talented but don't fit in with what we're trying to do e.g. Carroll, Markovic, maybe Benteke (though I hope not).

I think everyone would take one of Ancelotti or Klopp now, but if Rodgers does go and the owners want to do something innovative then how about Carra as caretaker, with Gerrard to join him at the end of the MLS season? They'd make sure we had a Liverpool style about us, and wouldn't tolerate a lot of the **** that's been going off for the last 18 months. I'd still want Ancelotti or Klopp, but I fear that if Rodgers goes we're going to get a Howe, De Boer or Deschamps, and we'll be back to square one.

I agree with most of that, but I wouldn't want Gerrard/Carragher in charge.

[Muddled]

I don't understand the glee that some people feel about sacking a manager. All I feel is sadness. Here we go again, another season written off in transition, another manager fallen by the wayside, another brave new dawn. Don't get me wrong, Brendan's reign currently has the same feeling as the end-days of Hodgson, and if we don't go on a miraculous 10 game winning streak now he'll be gone and rightly so. He can't say he wasn't given a fair crack at it after 3 full seasons and plenty of backing.

I think we need to question how we're run as a club though, with absentee owners and no clear idea of what we are as a team. We've lurched from Hodgson long ball to Dalglish pragmatism, to Rodgers...whatever the **** it is that we're trying to do now. Players have been signed for years for positions that the manager doesn't require, (e.g. if you've already got Coutinho then why waste £50m on Lallana and Firmino to play no.10? If you're not going to play with wingers then why waste £20m on Markovic?).

I think we need to commit to what we want the club to be on the pitch, and make our management and playing decisions around that. Personally I'd like to us commit to a pass-and-move style, with workers all over the pitch, pressing teams high up the pitch and moving the ball quickly in possession. But whatever we want to be, we should focus on that, and not sign players just because the stats say they're undervalued, sign them because they are "Liverpool players" who will slot into our club style. That also means not signing players who are very talented but don't fit in with what we're trying to do e.g. Carroll, Markovic, maybe Benteke (though I hope not).

An excellent post.

I think everyone would take one of Ancelotti or Klopp now, but if Rodgers does go and the owners want to do something innovative then how about Carra as caretaker, with Gerrard to join him at the end of the MLS season? They'd make sure we had a Liverpool style about us, and wouldn't tolerate a lot of the **** that's been going off for the last 18 months. I'd still want Ancelotti or Klopp, but I fear that if Rodgers goes we're going to get a Howe, De Boer or Deschamps, and we'll be back to square one.

We'll just gloss over this last paragraph though.

[calvoboy]

I agree with most of that, but I wouldn't want Gerrard/Carragher in charge.

We'll just gloss over this last paragraph though.

Yeah, maybe. My thinking was that we need someone who'll install a club ethos, and it helps if it's someone that we can all get behind as fans. I really worry that if/when Rodgers goes FSG won't go for the obvious names that we'd all support but will try and be clever again, and I'm not sure anyone's got the patience this time around.

[ronanm]

I never believed he was the right man for the job - I said "more action, less talk" in this thread near the start of his tenure but unfortunately it has always been more talk. Even when SG slipped I blamed him for not going for the draw in "that" game. I don't take any enjoyment in seeing Rodgers under such pressure. He must realise now the enormity and expectation of being a Liverpool manager. Whether he's prepared to admit he is not up to the job or not is another thing, but even his ego can't be immune to this shambles. Something's gotta give!

[Roboklopp]

[Beleaguered]

[Pablo]

Did McAllister do his post-match interview again last night? It seems like it.

That's not a good sign on his part, starting to go into hiding.

[Maxiedge]

He's a **** manager who just got lucky with Suarez, Sturbridge and to a lesser extent Sterling. By all accounts, Sterling couldn't wait to get the **** out and let this plonker be.

His man-management has descended into chaos. Surprised there hasn't been some sort of mutiny.

[Alex]

He's a **** manager who just got lucky with Suarez, Sturbridge and to a lesser extent Sterling. By all accounts, Sterling couldn't wait to get the **** out and let this plonker be.

His man-management has descended into chaos. Surprised there hasn't been some sort of mutiny.

Well thats a slight rewriting of history.

That season was down to Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Gerrard and a few others. But it was up to the manager to get the system that played to all their strengths.

His lack of adaptability is his downfall. But its really not fair to take all the credit from him for that season.

[Maxiedge]

Well thats a slight rewriting of history.

That season was down to Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Gerrard and a few others. But it was up to the manager to get the system that played to all their strengths.

His lack of adaptability is his downfall. But its really not fair to take all the credit from him for that season.

I would have agreed with you a while back but all the evidence is there now to show that he's a charlatan. Sorry, I hate using that word and I hate saying it, but it's true.

Lack of adaptibility, man-management, mid-table mentality, patronising interviews etc, etc...

[McDermotX]

[Beleaguered]

Love that word

Heard it 3 times on the radio this morning already, referring to Brendan and Schtevee.

[Exiled_red]

Yeah, maybe. My thinking was that we need someone who'll install a club ethos, and it helps if it's someone that we can all get behind as fans. I really worry that if/when Rodgers goes FSG won't go for the obvious names that we'd all support but will try and be clever again, and I'm not sure anyone's got the patience this time around.

It's a difficult one because there is no obvious choice as a caretaker, the guys on the coaching staff have only been here a few months, Kenny recently had the job, beyond that there is no one. I have said previously that in my opinion to get back to the top we need someone high profile who is well know in football beyond the PL and is a proven winner, who will be able to attract good players from across europe.

With all due respect to Rodgers who outside England would have heard of him before we appointed him? His profile is solely based on our profile as a club, if we as a club aren't doing well, his profile isn't going to convince top players to join us. If we could bring someone in like Ancelotti he has a reputation of his own as a proven winner, even when we aren't doing well as a club in his early period in charge he can say to people 'this is what I want to do' and he speaks with authority because he has 3 CL winners medal and various other achievements at the top of the game to back it up. Rodgers may have the same plan but if he has no success to back it up it becomes much harder to buy into.

I think that this is something that is underestimated in the game, but it is something that I think we need to consider with our next managerial appointment.

[Maxiedge]

I would have agreed with you a while back but all the evidence is there now to show that he's a charlatan. Sorry, I hate using that word and I hate saying it, but it's true.

Lack of adaptibility, man-management, mid-table mentality, patronising interviews etc, etc...

Ok forget the patronising interviews bit, that's not really important but I can add to that: bad player judgement, history of losing big games, poor motivator, can't organise a defence.

He's just not good at anything charlatan

[gratziani]

Has to go because when a lower league team come to Anfield we can't put them to bed as usual. Three at the back versus a team from the bottom division !

Our home form is nothing but bottom of the table stuff and been like this for months when Palace and West Ham come and play us off the park in front of the fans.