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    Originally posted by Fredo View Post
    We've spent that much and recouped a lot though, which is par for the course. Problem has been in our muddled recruitment policy. Something's not right and all is not down to Rodgers. They will have to break the model when the next manager comes in, or they won't get a top tier one, but rather someone who will be happy to make concessions. Maybe Rodgers tried to make too many of them.
    Stop making excuses for him

    His recruitment is also very muddled

    He signed Lovren

    He signed Lallana when we already had Coutinho and he wanted to play 4-3-3 and Lallana ain't a wide player for that system

    This summer he's had control of transfers.

    He's signed the supposed best rightback in the country and he's now playing him as a wingback

    He brings in 3 forwards none of who can play wide and one of who is not suited to his passing game (Benteke). He then plays Ings wide left and worries why we are lumping the ball to Benteke

    To top it all he goes out and signs Firmino who again isn't a wide player and who is more suited to the same position as Coutinho and Lallana play

    Madness
    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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      Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
      We've invested £300m in new players in 3 years, most managers would kill for that. Nobody can tell me we are maximising performance or results from what we have available, whatever the structure behind the scenes, and that has to come to the manager's door.
      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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        Rodgers blagged his way to this job,had a fortune to spend and no idea where and how to play players.

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          Originally posted by Bender View Post
          Rodgers said: “No, no. No chance. I want to be a manager and the target in my own mind is to get to 1,000 games.

          “I know that over the course of that, you’re looking at 20 odd years. I’m realistic enough to know that I might have another five or six jobs in order to do that.
          Sixteen months ago we nearly won the league and I was Manager of the Year. Sixteen months later, you’re not so good at your job, when you’re actually better at your job.

          No ******* way



          There's a Partridge quote if ever I saw one. Never mind Hodgson. No wonder the players looks like they can't be bothered with him anymore. Imagine what they actually hear during his team talks and at Melwood? I bet we only hear a fraction of what he comes out with.

          Also those Hodgson videos shaggy did helped us get through the hodgson months. Could do we some again now.
          Last edited by Leyton388; 26-09-15, 09:06 AM.

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            Originally posted by Bender View Post
            Rodgers blagged his way to this job,had a fortune to spend and no idea where and how to play players.


            I might send my cv in to fsg. When I was in college I did advanced sports science and one of the course materials was to create a dossier on my chosen sport. I did it on football tactics and formations. I still have my football dossier somewhere so might dig it out and apply. It can't be any worse than Brendans one? I'll tell you one thing though it didn't include playing players out of position.

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              Originally posted by Bender View Post
              Rodgers blagged his way to this job,had a fortune to spend and no idea where and how to play players.
              Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post


              I might send my cv in to fsg. When I was in college I did advanced sports science and one of the course materials was to create a dossier on my chosen sport. I did it on football tactics and formations. I still have my football dossier somewhere so might dig it out and apply.

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                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                Paper valuations ain't worth a carrot imo

                The club will be worth what somebody is willing to pay for it

                I can't see anyone paying anywhere near £700m for the club
                Paper valuations are what every business is based on, owners will have their magic number any potential buyer will have an idea of what they think its worth.

                With the to deals in place and the money available to PL sides I'd say that valuation is probably not a million miles off.

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                  Originally posted by Bender View Post




                  He needs tactics when you can score with an overhead kick from anywhere on the pitch?

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                    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                    Stop making excuses for him

                    His recruitment is also very muddled

                    He signed Lovren

                    He signed Lallana when we already had Coutinho and he wanted to play 4-3-3 and Lallana ain't a wide player for that system

                    This summer he's had control of transfers.

                    He's signed the supposed best rightback in the country and he's now playing him as a wingback

                    He brings in 3 forwards none of who can play wide and one of who is not suited to his passing game (Benteke). He then plays Ings wide left and worries why we are lumping the ball to Benteke

                    To top it all he goes out and signs Firmino who again isn't a wide player and who is more suited to the same position as Coutinho and Lallana play

                    Madness
                    I literally can not think of a worse manager at signing players in all the time I've been supporting Liverpool. Don't get me wrong, we've signed worse players. Many of the players who've come in under Rodgers have been at least decent.

                    I rate him so poorly not on the quality of players signed, but on the complete lack of plan for his signings. Hodgson signed a real crap player in Konchesky, Souness likewise with Dicks. But they signed that player for LB and that's where they played.

                    They were wrong on the quality, but were recruiting with the right idea in mind. With Rodgers it looks like he's tried to sign the best players he can and then tries to force them into a starting XI.

                    I actually think a child could have recruited better with the Suarez & Sterling money.
                    Forwards.......

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                      I bet Rodgers dossier looks like this.



                      BR: Look John I even have all the Shiny ones and loads of swaps for transfers.
                      Last edited by Leyton388; 18-03-16, 02:52 AM.

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                        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                        I literally can not think of a worse manager at signing players in all the time I've been supporting Liverpool. Don't get me wrong, we've signed worse players. Many of the players who've come in under Rodgers have been at least decent.

                        I rate him so poorly not on the quality of players signed, but on the complete lack of plan for his signings. Hodgson signed a real crap player in Konchesky, Souness likewise with Dicks. But they signed that player for LB and that's where they played.

                        They were wrong on the quality, but were recruiting with the right idea in mind. With Rodgers it looks like he's tried to sign the best players he can and then tries to force them into a starting XI.

                        I actually think a child could have recruited better with the Suarez & Sterling money.
                        Rafa used to do that a lot. Played Arbeloa at left back, Carra at right back and Gerrard as a right winger, sometimes playing Riera on the right and even played Dossena as a left winger and probably missing a lot more others. Didn't harm the team if players are tactically astute and if confidence is there. I think you exaggerate a little bit.
                        Are we winning?

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                          Gerrard was excellent as a narrow right winger, and it kept him from getting into trouble in the middle!

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                            Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                            Rafa used to do that a lot. Played Arbeloa at left back, Carra at right back and Gerrard as a right winger, sometimes playing Riera on the right and even played Dossena as a left winger and probably missing a lot more others. Didn't harm the team if players are tactically astute and if confidence is there. I think you exaggerate a little bit.
                            arbeloa played at leftback when he had to mark someone out of the game, wingers are constantly swaping positions, and gerrard was at his best when he had freedom to attack.

                            i've no problem with say gomez playing left back, and focusing on defence, as long as there is balance to the team, and our rightback is more attack minded

                            playing marković and lallana at left wingback though, things like that that make no sense at all, that's what people have a problem with.
                            Jürgen Klopp

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                              Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                              Rafa used to do that a lot. Played Arbeloa at left back, Carra at right back and Gerrard as a right winger, sometimes playing Riera on the right and even played Dossena as a left winger and probably missing a lot more others. Didn't harm the team if players are tactically astute and if confidence is there. I think you exaggerate a little bit.
                              Rafa played Carra at CB. He was the first Liverpool manager to regularly do so, having spent most his time at LB under Ged. I remember there was an occasion when all our RB's were injured. Can't remember who was boss now but I think Skrtel ended up at RB because Carra supposedly refused. That's perfectly acceptable, we had no one else. May have been Rodgers.

                              Another example would be Dirk Kuyt. Signed as a striker but ended up RW. But he initially started as striker for a season. There was a plan when he was signed. What annoys me about Rodgers is he signs someone and has no place for them. He immediately has no clue of where to put them.

                              Ings was at LW/LWB against United. He's a striker and a decent one as we have seen. He's a **** wing back. Think we had an injury or two and that's it. We have one winger in Ibe when Rodgers likes to play ideally a 433 with wingers. That is completely down to him & no one else.
                              Forwards.......

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