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    Originally posted by captainfog View Post
    Pulis might have done. He's a decent manager, I just don't like him.
    I was being ironic.

    Do you really think Pulis would have won us the league and made us play as well and as freely as we've been in 2013-2014? I highly doubt it and I think your bias in the fact that you've never liked Rodgers, is clouding your judgement.

    Rodgers had his failings but he is a good manager and coach.
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      Originally posted by captainfog View Post
      Almost any manager could have got us close with Suarez in the side that year. One of the world's best during his peak season was the deciding factor, the other stuff not so important, if at all.
      Originally posted by captainfog View Post
      But look at what he did in his other seasons. Rafa wasn't a one season wonder. And as good as Torres and Gerard were they weren't Suarez good. He was a different level altogether (which is saying something).

      Our defence under Rodgers was rubbish, his game plan was basically give the ball to Suarez and let the magic happen. There was no tactical genius underpinning our title tilt.
      Now you're just being silly

      Of course having one of the world's best/most influential players at the absolute peak of their game was the deciding factor in coming so close, but to completely disregard the other players as well as the person that dictated what they did on the pitch is a nonsense

      A nonsense
      I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
      There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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        Originally posted by Fredo View Post
        I was being ironic.

        Do you really think Pulis would have won us the league and made us play as well and as freely as we've been in 2013-2014? I highly doubt it and I think your bias in the fact that you've never liked Rodgers, is clouding your judgement.

        Rodgers had his failings but he is a good manager and coach.
        I think he would have challenged. Can't say whether he'd have won it. And that's my point, It wasn't Rodgers management that got us close because any half decent manager would have done. I've yet to see Rodgers provide this free flowing football since or before either.

        The stars aligned and he happened to be in charge.
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          Originally posted by captainfog View Post
          But look at what he did in his other seasons. Rafa wasn't a one season wonder. And as good as Torres and Gerard were they weren't Suarez good. He was a different level altogether (which is saying something).

          Our defence under Rodgers was rubbish, his game plan was basically give the ball to Suarez and let the magic happen. There was no tactical genius underpinning our title tilt.
          Whatcha talking about? Torres and Gerrard were world-beaters in 2008-9. Not far behind Suarez at all.
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            Originally posted by captainfog View Post
            I think he would have challenged. Can't say whether he'd have won it. And that's my point, It wasn't Rodgers management that got us close because any half decent manager would have done. I've yet to see Rodgers provide this free flowing football since or before either.

            The stars aligned but he still happened to be in charge and led the club.
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              Originally posted by captainfog View Post
              The stars aligned and he happened to be in charge.
              This is true. Nothing else is, but this is
              I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
              There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                Now you're just being silly

                Of course having one of the world's best/most influential players at the absolute peak of their game was the deciding factor in coming so close, but to completely disregard the other players as well as the person that dictated what they did on the pitch is a nonsense

                A nonsense
                Take any one of those other factors out and it would have been the same. Take Suarez out and it wouldn't have been. That's the point.
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                  honestly i think it was time for brendan to go, but i also think the major problem at our club is recruitment. to be a club that challenges at the top end of things, you need players who belong there. our inability to attract the replacements we needed when we sold our best players (which is also a big problem) will hold any side back. however unlike some people in the fanbase, i don't think there is a straightforward answer to this. having klopp might help, paying better money might help...but there is a chicken and egg thing here where you have to be successful in order to attract successful players. so that's the gig for the new man: getting to the top tier without top tier players. it's a tough job for anybody, management, board or owner.
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                    Originally posted by captainfog View Post
                    Take any one of those other factors out and it would have been the same. Take Suarez out and it wouldn't have been. That's the point.
                    I understand the point you're making, you're just wrong
                    I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                    There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                      He did try his best, no doubt about that. I'm glad he's gone, but I don't have any hard feelings against him. He just wasn't right for the job. I hope he finds another club soon and has great success there.

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                        It's hard to think he didn't stumble across a winning formula with the players he had. As soon as conditions changed he was back to square one and was back to guessing at what might work, and he didn't find it again. If we'd kept him he would have kept on guessing without a coherent strategy and probably have kept failing.
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                          Originally posted by captainfog View Post
                          Take any one of those other factors out and it would have been the same. Take Suarez out and it wouldn't have been. That's the point.
                          Yep, we'd have coped easily without Sturridge's 21 league goals. Just look at how amazing we were with Suarez and no help for him up top previously. The wonderful world of 6th and 8th was it? Perhaps Suarez was just **** then and magically became good one night in his mid 20s.

                          It's fair enough to think he's the main reason. The only one though? Nah.

                          By the way, the momentum for that season started when Suarez wasnt even on the pitch, he was banned.

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                            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                            It's says all the right things, but ultimately it smacks of the polish given by a PR agency, and lacks the sort of detail that would make it feel truly personal or heartfelt.

                            Getting sacked sucks though, so he's done well to release anything at all, and maybe creative writing is not his thing

                            He should probably prepare himself for the fact he will never see John Henry or Tom Werner again.
                            Nah, nonsense that Bootso! He'll be in touch buying Lovren, Lallana, Allen and Milner for Sunderland!

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                              Originally posted by Chris View Post
                              Yep, we'd have coped easily without Sturridge's 21 league goals. Just look at how amazing we were with Suarez and no help for him up top previously. The wonderful world of 6th and 8th was it? Perhaps Suarez was just **** then and magically became good one night in his mid 20s.

                              It's fair enough to think he's the main reason. The only one though? Nah.

                              By the way, the momentum for that season started when Suarez wasnt even on the pitch, he was banned.
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                                Rodgers = Divisive

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